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Sackboy
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Re: Hey Naughty Dog ever heard of New Coke? I'm guessing not.

Feb 26, 2010
good OP, kudos
RFoM Ranked Kills ~ 150,000
Uc2 Ranked Kills ~ 27,500
R2 Ranked Kills ~ 2,000
UT3 Ranked Kills ~ 1,600
BF 1943 Ranked Kills ~ 1,500
MW2 Ranked Kills ~ 1,200
CoD WaW Ranked Kills ~ 1,100
KZ2 Ranked Kills ~ 700
HAZE Ranked Kills ~ 200
CoD4 Ranked Kills ~ 15
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Re: Hey Naughty Dog ever heard of New Coke? I'm guessing not.

Feb 26, 2010

1 hit kill sniper is perfect if it is going to have 6 shots, it's now only boosted to a half way good power weapon from "Who the hell ever uses the sniper"

 

FAL & Pistol IS a little OP 

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Re: Hey Naughty Dog ever heard of New Coke? I'm guessing not.

Feb 26, 2010

Da-Hedgie wrote:

1 hit kill sniper is perfect if it is going to have 6 shots, it's now only boosted to a half way good power weapon from "Who the hell ever uses the sniper"

 

FAL & Pistol IS a little OP 


 

 

wow you clearly totally missed triplewreck's post about the sniper didnt you, 6 shots, 9 with bandoleer, extreemly accurate at any range, very fast rate of fire, and quick to reload 1 shot kill

 

rpg, 2 shots, 4 with rocket man is it called? good at short - medium range slow rate of fire, slow reloading, 1 shot kill,

 

hammer 6 shots, 12 with launch man, good at short - medium range, slow reload 2 shots to kill

 

so lets say you hit every shot with each gun, when it's got maximum ammo, 

 

sniper, 9 kills at ANY range

 

rpg, 4 kills at short - medium range

 

hammer, 6 kills at short - medium range

 

and you say it's only a half decent power weapon, LOL

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RFoM Ranked Kills ~ 150,000
Uc2 Ranked Kills ~ 27,500
R2 Ranked Kills ~ 2,000
UT3 Ranked Kills ~ 1,600
BF 1943 Ranked Kills ~ 1,500
MW2 Ranked Kills ~ 1,200
CoD WaW Ranked Kills ~ 1,100
KZ2 Ranked Kills ~ 700
HAZE Ranked Kills ~ 200
CoD4 Ranked Kills ~ 15
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Sackboy
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Re: Hey Naughty Dog ever heard of New Coke? I'm guessing not.

Feb 26, 2010

Da-Hedgie wrote:
You're missing the entire point that the RPG and Hammer takes ZERO skill to use, you'd have to be pretty skilled to kill 6 person with the ammo they give you, with the map designs in Uncharted 2 with very little open areas and lots of random covers.

 

it takes aiming skill just like the sniper, ok so it hasnt got explosive rounds, but it can kill at any range unlike the hammer and rpg 

RFoM Ranked Kills ~ 150,000
Uc2 Ranked Kills ~ 27,500
R2 Ranked Kills ~ 2,000
UT3 Ranked Kills ~ 1,600
BF 1943 Ranked Kills ~ 1,500
MW2 Ranked Kills ~ 1,200
CoD WaW Ranked Kills ~ 1,100
KZ2 Ranked Kills ~ 700
HAZE Ranked Kills ~ 200
CoD4 Ranked Kills ~ 15
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Re: Hey Naughty Dog ever heard of New Coke? I'm guessing not.

Feb 26, 2010

You're missing the entire point that the RPG and Hammer takes ZERO skill to use, large splash damage, big knock down area(if you don't have sure foot), you can just blind fire your way out if you want. The sniper on the other hand, you'd have to be pretty skilled to kill 6 person with the ammo they give you, with the map designs in Uncharted 2 with very little open areas and lots of random covers.

 

Oh forgot that the sniper is atrociously bad in close range, Any range? LOL

 

DOUBLE LOL @ you guys worshipping that man.

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Re: Hey Naughty Dog ever heard of New Coke? I'm guessing not.

Feb 26, 2010

Would have got Kudos from yours truly if you came up with a better title.

 

From the title, it would seem you disdain ND.

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Re: Hey Naughty Dog ever heard of New Coke? I'm guessing not.

Feb 26, 2010
Well ether way, the only thing that happened to it was turning it into a useless weapon to a weapon worth rushing for, I'm okay with that, if you disagree then I respect your opinion to a degree.
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Re: Hey Naughty Dog ever heard of New Coke? I'm guessing not.

Feb 26, 2010

Da-Hedgie wrote:
Well ether way, the only thing that happened to it was turning it into a useless weapon to a weapon worth rushing for, I'm okay with that, if you disagree then I respect your opinion to a degree.

 

 

 

it was never a useless weapon, just not a lot of people used it because it required skill to use pre patch  

 

http://www.naughtydog.com/stats/weapons/losprests  

 

^^ should prove the point that it was far from useless 

RFoM Ranked Kills ~ 150,000
Uc2 Ranked Kills ~ 27,500
R2 Ranked Kills ~ 2,000
UT3 Ranked Kills ~ 1,600
BF 1943 Ranked Kills ~ 1,500
MW2 Ranked Kills ~ 1,200
CoD WaW Ranked Kills ~ 1,100
KZ2 Ranked Kills ~ 700
HAZE Ranked Kills ~ 200
CoD4 Ranked Kills ~ 15
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Re: Hey Naughty Dog ever heard of New Coke? I'm guessing not.

Feb 26, 2010

Killer_Mushroom wrote:

Da-Hedgie wrote:
You're missing the entire point that the RPG and Hammer takes ZERO skill to use, you'd have to be pretty skilled to kill 6 person with the ammo they give you, with the map designs in Uncharted 2 with very little open areas and lots of random covers.

 

it takes aiming skill just like the sniper, ok so it hasnt got explosive rounds, but it can kill at any range unlike the hammer and rpg 


 

Big advantage to the hammer and rpg is that you don't need line of sight to kill.  Stay in cover, sniper can't kill.  Stay in cover, Hammer and RPG will splash damage kill.

 

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Re: Hey Naughty Dog ever heard of New Coke? I'm guessing not.

Feb 26, 2010

In regards to the topic, I feel I should mention I once read a topic about market research and New Coke was an example. They said that the company really believed their statistics and data said this is what the majority of consumers would want. The writer of the article joked about how Coke spent tons of money to try and figure out something that anyone could have told them for free, and got it wrong in the process.

 

I wonder if this case is true with ND. That despite ND taking time to "look into" and believe this change was the best action, people actually don't want it.

 

I have certainly thought of New Coke when thinking of 1.05. It shows that just because a big company thinks people want something or will like something, doesn't mean they magically get it right all the time, and changing something that is already decently popular and acclaimed doesn't usually seem to work out too well.

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