BostonApu wrote:
You know I like you Vad and I got a lot of respect for you. Obviously your quite a bit smarter than most here. That said count me as one person who 100% disagrees with you about the auto aim specials. For the last month or two I've been using Reapers and Rk exclusively so I've got a good taste of both sides. Here's why I think its a bad idea.
1. The same argument can be made for not changing the homing on a cars special that you make to say why a cars armor should be left alone. The whole game was balanced around the fact that if you are in range with no obstacles and the Rk player has a lock it with connect. Same for the others.
2. Does it suck to be a Reaper getting hit with blood missiles? Yes. You know what also sucks when your Rk spends all that time charging/firing that special only to have a Jyd laugh at it while he does 3xs more damage just ramming you and maybe a few homing and a side arm. Better hope he doesn't have red megas or your really dead quick. Every car in the game has another car that it doesn't match up well against. I love that about the game.
3. Reaper and maybe CF are the only two who this has a major impact on and they both have more than enough advantages to even things out.
4. The harm you would do those four vehicles that rely on accuracy will greatly outweigh the benefit only two vehicles receive.
Usually I agree with a lot of your stuff but I think this would be the most harmful suggestion, if put into use, I've seen. Poor DW would need to be taken out back and given the old yeller treatment if that happened.
Do know that I HATE playing as Roadkill. I quite honestly hate him. He is by far the one vehicle I dispise playing as. However, I did just play as him. My score was: 5 kills, 8 deaths, 4 assists, 1950's DD and about 1400 DR.
I relied on the specials pretty much the whole game and didn't bother collecting weapons and whatnot. I got the full damage (blinking when it's released) two times. I got a lot of Blood Missile Barrage attacks and I missed up a lot of specials simply because I'm not a RK experienced player. What happened was this: so long as I can stay in front and aim straight, my bullets hit 100% and I see a blood missile. My enemies cannot escape.
Would it matter what map I'm playing as? If you want to know, it was Blackrock. i don't think it matters at all though since there are few maps where you can react to a special like this and distance yourself from the wide open to the cover within 1 or 2 seconds of a 5 second damage duration. In other words, you're screwed. Why claim that you can't do full damage when I've done it without putting much effort into it? I did it. Better players did it. I've averaged a blood barrage almost every time I used it. Why can't you?
And that's my problem. If I can do it, then that means two things: he's too easy to do it with him.
So when I charged it to the third stage (not blinking) I averaged 70 damage+ because people started spamming shields. When I did it full, I got the full damage output of it.
And here's the thing, you can do the full damage and it is accurate in every way possible. How can you argue that Crimson Fury and Reaper stand a chance?
Reaper:
Flamesaw them? Hello! You can jump over them, miss them, and call them unreliable. Obviously, people will shield them. What happens next? You die because you took a chance to hit them. There's really no other way to win without being a pansy or luck. He's too strong and responsive to your moves that he'll kill you. Then you can even get rammed and mega gunned too. Regardless, the Roadkill clearly obliterates the Reaper and there's no chance. If he's got Red Mega guns, then he can go 1 on 1 versus anymore and win in 5 seconds.
Crimson Fury:
His special does less damage so it's pointless. He dies by the way.
All I'm saying is make the weapons be able to be avoided like Darksides. You can still win with Darkside, but you have to aim better.
If you're going to say, "it sucks" wasting a special? Then you can basically chalk that up to your own mistakes and ways to improve.
If I miss with the flamesaw, I'm not asking for a Buff, I'm forcing myself to improve. If you only average 10 damage with it, then you need to improve the usage.
All bow before VAD!!!, for his opinions are the only ones to go bye!!
How dare anyone have a different opinion then BAD!!! Do not Question the almighty VAD for you will be stuck down with the TM Gods themselves....
O yeah and Vad if Roadkill was SOOOO powerful how come you died so many times?
Wait was it because you were not really playing and didn't know him... Didn't use pickups??
Fine drop his health so You can Kill him with a Reaper with a Flamesaw and a Homing, He messess up once and a Reaper kills him, but a Reaper can use his 4 shields and can run away with his handling, But a Reaper shouldn't do have to do that right?? Face it VAD reaper wasn't meant to b a brawler he was made to be a chicksh** and run away. A Reaper can basicly kill 4 vehicles with 1 fail swoop of his flamesaw. Reaper was designed to do what you call cheap.
and why even bother with the Blood Missile anyway when you can do just as much damage with Homing's, actually if you have enough homing you can do WAY MORE damage whenyou take into consideration of his Charge Time and Duration time. Don't even get me started on what Fire Missile and Power Missile can do in that time frame, And Homing have a larger lock-on Range to Boot and you can't dodge them yeah!! I can throw around Damage numbers to.
But I guess I was wrong by giving the suggestion to lower the Damage of Homing missile...
Vad I think you need to face the facts that things like Homing abilities are not going to change.
and maybe come up with some "quick fixes" to address that fact
No Wonder you want a nerf him.
And your match you played with Roadkill proves nothing
1. BlackRock sucks. Bye Far the worst "Balanced" Map.
2. Exactly Who did you play against?? AFKS, Newbies, Pros??
3. What Vehicles were they Using?
4. Did you Camp? or Fight it out?
Once again this game is Not Balanced for 1v1. It is mostly Balanced Team Wise,
Reaper is the Damage Dealer or Finisher, Crimson is a finisher Balanced to kill the runners
Roadkill, Death Warrent and Outlaw are used best to Force Shields, If a Roadkill is Frozen then he loses his special. Force Roadkill to use his Shield(s) and he is all yours... you stop the Blood Missles which also means if he has another one he is forced to recharge it.
I agree Lower Roadkills Health Slightly say 170, increase his tapout rate to slightly Below Death Warrents, and possibly make his lock-on "cone" the same as a Fire Missile. Make it easier for faster cars to break out of his lock.
But once again I would say some of your changes would end up making Talon even more OP
