Seriously....they nerf'd shiv to a point its too frusterating. I can be aiming to shiv one target and sneaking up on them but if someone just punches me it COMPLETELY stops my ability to shiv for 5sec!?!?!? No I have always been stealth player and I previously had no problem sneaking around to kill someone (albiet without them having strategist 2) but really Naughty Dog....WHAT WERE YOU DOING!?
Someone already mentioned if your target is A and B player shoots or punches you, you can still shiv A.
If A damage you, it's 3 seconds (not 5) before you can shiv him.
If you're sneaking around, and someone shoots or punches you, your stealth fails.
I have no problem doin stealth shiv, I don't know what you're talking about.
I still have no problem shivving someone who is mashing square button because he was punching my teammate not me. I still am able to shiv him. Did that yesterday in fact.
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I had only one example for which the change fails, it happend yesterday on Checkpoint:
I was shooting a guy with two bursts but missed one bullet, so he was barely still alive and was able to escape around the corner. His buddy came along and I got distracted with him. The first guy flanked me and ran up on me and tried to shiv me, which failed because of the 3 seconds that didn't have passed. It would have been a valid shiv scenario in my opinion, because I was distracted and didn't pay attention to him (in fact I considered him healing).
In the end I got a double kill
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If you want an advantage in a melee situation the use brawler. That's what it's DESIGNED to do.
Ummmm nooo. Yesterday multiple times I went to shiv Target A and Target B punched me and stopped my ability to shiv entirely. Whether its 3 or 5 secs it makes no sense to completely stop onces ability to shiv. So yeah you can call it what you want but being smart and tactical in a TACTICAL shooter is much better than going around BASHING square button.
You are right they literally made brawler an ability with NO DOWNSIDES because in a fistfight...unless you have brawler as well you will ALSO lose. This is what shiv dancing compensated for. I had a match with a buddy the other day where it literally becameafistfight amongst 5 ppl in a room...i got punch once from the side and couldnt shiv the guy in front of me.
but its okay clearly the people who are fine with this nerf either button mash square or frankly are ignorant