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Hey board. I'm back...for a bit. Smiley Happy

 

I decided to give TLoU a second chance after seeing all the new stuff that arrived with the new DLC.

Although some of them leave me a bit puzzle, so I'd like to use this opportunity to ask you guys a few questions.

 

1. Is Shiv Dance still gone? No more neck stabbing counter to overly fisty people?

2. What happened to Machete? It is definitely weaker and it seems to have gotten faster too, although it isn't always the case. Sometimes it's faster, sometimes it's the same as it was before.

3. I hope it was some sort of lag, butcould it be that we can't avoid getting stunned by Smoke Bombs with jumping over cover anymore? How should I deal with them without that little gimmick? It would be quite unfair if we can't escape Smoke Bombs, especially with stuff like Bomb Master and Explosion Expert around.

4. Does Covert 3 block the new detection skills Damage Marker and Awareness?

5. Does Damage Marker and Hawkeye stack and work together?

 

The new skills seem to be fine so far. I especially like Agility paired with Covert. <3

The new weapons added a fresh breath to the MP. Out of 5 games I played so far, I was the ONLY guy using SAR and Shotgun. No Flamethrower either. Lot of Enforcers and Full Auto Rifles, with some snipers at the side. It was really refreshing to NOT play the usual rush into melee range with nailboards and Shotguns game as it was when I left, shortly after releasing Left Behind. Good job ND!

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1. Shiv dance technically still works, but there's a stipulation that if you get hurt by the guy you're trying to dance shiv, you will be unable to shiv him for 3 seconds.

 

2.They just tweaked the machete to interrupt melee animations and gave it a faster 3-hit combo instead of the 2-hit combo so that it could be better than a modded 2x4.

 

3.they also removed the invincibility of avoiding smoke bombs by vaulting over cover.

 

4.covert blocks damage marker, not awareness.

 

5.yes damage marker and hwakeye work together.

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In the Twitch stream, one of the developers said that Covert counters Awareness. Someone confirm.
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Not true^ I was using awareness 2 and i could see this pesky Covert 3 sniper's nametag across the map in lakeside.
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I'll trial it in a custom. I gotta see it with my own eyes hehe
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Thanks for the answers guys. Isn't now Smoke Bomb a problem to fight against then? I mean, with the new Bomb Expert, that makes you immune against your own Smoke Bombs and shortens it's fuse, wouldn't removing the ability to avoid getting stunned make it unfair? I can imagine people abusing this to get easy and cheap shiv kills.
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no

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Welcome back Smiley Happy To answer someone in this thread :- the ND Dev said Covert Training 3 is protected against damage marker because damage marker is about marking and Covert Training 3 protects from marking but Awareness is not about marking its to do with nametags so people using Awareness can easily see Covert Training 3 users.

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Sentiel wrote:

Hey board. I'm back...for a bit. Smiley Happy

 

I decided to give TLoU a second chance after seeing all the new stuff that arrived with the new DLC.

Although some of them leave me a bit puzzle, so I'd like to use this opportunity to ask you guys a few questions.

 

1. Is Shiv Dance still gone? No more neck stabbing counter to overly fisty people?

2. What happened to Machete? It is definitely weaker and it seems to have gotten faster too, although it isn't always the case. Sometimes it's faster, sometimes it's the same as it was before.

3. I hope it was some sort of lag, butcould it be that we can't avoid getting stunned by Smoke Bombs with jumping over cover anymore? How should I deal with them without that little gimmick? It would be quite unfair if we can't escape Smoke Bombs, especially with stuff like Bomb Master and Explosion Expert around.

4. Does Covert 3 block the new detection skills Damage Marker and Awareness?

5. Does Damage Marker and Hawkeye stack and work together?

 

The new skills seem to be fine so far. I especially like Agility paired with Covert. <3

The new weapons added a fresh breath to the MP. Out of 5 games I played so far, I was the ONLY guy using SAR and Shotgun. No Flamethrower either. Lot of Enforcers and Full Auto Rifles, with some snipers at the side. It was really refreshing to NOT play the usual rush into melee range with nailboards and Shotguns game as it was when I left, shortly after releasing Left Behind. Good job ND!


First of all HeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeartHeart

Sentiel, my old friend! *dance in happiness*

YOU ARE ONE IF NOT THE COOLEST PLAYER IN THIS GAME!! God of Bow!

 

1. Is Shiv Dance still gone? No more neck stabbing counter to overly fisty people?

Shiv dance is apparently possible with lag.

And you can still shiv dance an enemy who hasn't damage you. It's still possible.

 

2. What happened to Machete? It is definitely weaker and it seems to have gotten faster too, although it isn't always the case. Sometimes it's faster, sometimes it's the same as it was before.

Machete is quick 3 hits instead of 2 slower hits.

I have not tried the new Machete so I can't tell you exactly how much better/worse it becomes.

 

3. I hope it was some sort of lag, butcould it be that we can't avoid getting stunned by Smoke Bombs with jumping over cover anymore? How should I deal with them without that little gimmick? It would be quite unfair if we can't escape Smoke Bombs, especially with stuff like Bomb Master and Explosion Expert around.

My friend, the best thing to do to counter Smoke Bombs (or any explosives) is to run away! Get out of that radius. It helped me numerous time!

 

4. Does Covert 3 block the new detection skills Damage Marker and Awareness?

Apparently people are talking that CT3 doesn't block out Awareness. Because it's not marking but nametag showing up on screen. I haven't tried Awareness, we shall see.

 

5. Does Damage Marker and Hawkeye stack and work together?

Supposedly it does gives you more parts using  both perks but it cost a lot of Loadout Points (to me) equipping BOTH.

 
Play soon my friend? Smiley Happy

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May 10, 2014

Hello mrsjimmymare. Smiley Happy

I'm glad to see you're still up and pwning people in TLoU.

 

Thank you for answering my questions. As for Shiv Dance, I used it as a counter against fists and the occasional Flamethrower, nothing else. This means it's still useless and I'll have to rely on Shotgun / Flame for CQC. -__-

Bow huh? I doubt I can hit a standing guy with it now, but I'll give it a shot, or two. I hope to meet you online soon. Smiley Very Happy

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