@OP
It depends on the game you want. If you want an extremely action packed game that isn't so tedious that it's unenjoyable, buy Warhawk. It's simple and awesome.
Starhawk's ground is slow and not very fun because you have to walk to shoot the only useful ground weapon for mid-range which is the rifle. Build & Battle becomes a gimmick because once your team places 32 things on the map (takes 10 minutes or less out of what will be 30 minute rounds), you can't place anything else unless you go back and destroy what you have already made. Without Build & Battle (B&B), you are left with the boring ground combat and because there are no permanent bases on the map you will find yourself randomly in the middle of nowhere where the only means to get back to your homebase is by running on foot. If the map is large, it'll take you a good 5 minutes or more.
The flight in Starhawk requires less skill. This is both good and bad. Do you enjoy being good at something you have worked hard at? In Starhawk, the pilots from Warhawk that put TONS of time into their flight skill are killed by noobs. It's good that new players can pick it up quickly, but when you get good in the air, the difference between good and bad is so small that you're going to feel like any work you put into it was in vain.
Starhawk gameplay has less action and is less satisfying. Fun rounds are inconsistent, and I struggle to have as much fun in a good round of Starhawk as I do in a bad round of Warhawk.
ButteredScones schrieb:.
Starhawk's ground is slow and not very fun because you have to walk to shoot the only useful ground weapon for mid-range which is the rifle. Build & Battle becomes a gimmick because once your team places 32 things on the map (takes 10 minutes or less out of what will be 30 minute rounds), you can't place anything else unless you go back and destroy what you have already made. Without Build & Battle (B&B), you are left with the boring ground combat and because there are no permanent bases on the map you will find yourself randomly in the middle of nowhere where the only means to get back to your homebase is by running on foot. If the map is large, it'll take you a good 5 minutes or more.
i agree with most of that... but the rifle is the only weapon to slow the gameply down... the other weapons are fine when fired without zoom. plus i think the sniper and the rocket launcher are useful at middle range to....
i think when you have a good team, the build and battle issues will be fixed... but you are so right with the permanent structures.
plus, i think more groundweapons, or more secundary fire modes of the weapons would be nice. i mentioned this in other posts. but chargeable sniper shots and a chargeable repairgun shot would be nice.
the sniper shot should went like a real railgun through the vehicle, and if hit the driver.... he should be dead.
stun grenades, other kinds of walls, more weapons at specific points, and so much more....
ButteredScones schrieb:
The flight in Starhawk requires less skill. This is both good and bad. Do you enjoy being good at something you have worked hard at? In Starhawk, the pilots from Warhawk that put TONS of time into their flight skill are killed by noobs. It's good that new players can pick it up quickly, but when you get good in the air, the difference between good and bad is so small that you're going to feel like any work you put into it was in vain.
i agree with this, at first it was really nice to be good in the air. but when i changed to Warhawk i realised that starhawk is easier. so it is nice in the beginning, but it could get boring after a few months.
barefot wrote:
ButteredScones schrieb:.
Starhawk's ground is slow and not very fun because you have to walk to shoot the only useful ground weapon for mid-range which is the rifle. Build & Battle becomes a gimmick because once your team places 32 things on the map (takes 10 minutes or less out of what will be 30 minute rounds), you can't place anything else unless you go back and destroy what you have already made. Without Build & Battle (B&B), you are left with the boring ground combat and because there are no permanent bases on the map you will find yourself randomly in the middle of nowhere where the only means to get back to your homebase is by running on foot. If the map is large, it'll take you a good 5 minutes or more.
i agree with most of that... but the rifle is the only weapon to slow the gameply down... the other weapons are fine when fired without zoom. plus i think the sniper and the rocket launcher are useful at middle range to....
The other weapons are tolerable in my opinion. Warhawk ground was all about switching weapons on the fly. Starhawk weapons are only useful for certain things resulting in repetitive combat. If someone's coming at me mid range, 95% of the time it's going to be a rifle. No rockets, no flamethrowers, no snipers. There's slower weapon switching. The RPG is decent for mid range but if you're on level ground it is unreliable and if the guy is already shooting me I'm not going to risk it. It isn't a viable option unlike how it was in Warhawk. No health bars either. Or biofields. It's so lame. Rifling wouldn't be as boring if we could run while aiming.
i think when you have a good team, the build and battle issues will be fixed... but you are so right with the permanent structures.
Yeah if the team is good it's np. If you want a good team, most of the time you need to be playing with friends. Public servers with randoms are near unplayable.
plus, i think more groundweapons, or more secundary fire modes of the weapons would be nice. i mentioned this in other posts. but chargeable sniper shots and a chargeable repairgun shot would be nice.
the sniper shot should went like a real railgun through the vehicle, and if hit the driver.... he should be dead.
stun grenades, other kinds of walls, more weapons at specific points, and so much more....
These would make it more interesting but IMO once the coolness wore off it'd be boring again. The mechanics themselves need to make for fun gameplay. Right now they don't.
ButteredScones schrieb:
The flight in Starhawk requires less skill. This is both good and bad. Do you enjoy being good at something you have worked hard at? In Starhawk, the pilots from Warhawk that put TONS of time into their flight skill are killed by noobs. It's good that new players can pick it up quickly, but when you get good in the air, the difference between good and bad is so small that you're going to feel like any work you put into it was in vain.
i agree with this, at first it was really nice to be good in the air. but when i changed to Warhawk i realised that starhawk is easier. so it is nice in the beginning, but it could get boring after a few months.
It was fun beasting the other noob team maybe the second time. After that it became boring, and when beastly pilots are going toe to toe with decent pilots like me it doesn't make me want to get better.
I got to level 13ish when 1.3 dropped and beyond that the game was too boring to play. There isn't enough to do. You go for the flag.. base camp.. or fly. Making forward bases isn't fun either and it takes forever. Destroying structures in their base gets boring too. Outside of those 4-5 things, there is literally nothing else to do.
ButteredScones wrote:
@OP
It depends on the game you want. If you want an extremely action packed game that isn't so tedious that it's unenjoyable, buy Warhawk. It's simple and awesome.
Starhawk's ground is slow and not very fun because you have to walk to shoot the only useful ground weapon for mid-range which is the rifle. Build & Battle becomes a gimmick because once your team places 32 things on the map (takes 10 minutes or less out of what will be 30 minute rounds), you can't place anything else unless you go back and destroy what you have already made. Without Build & Battle (B&B), you are left with the boring ground combat and because there are no permanent bases on the map you will find yourself randomly in the middle of nowhere where the only means to get back to your homebase is by running on foot. If the map is large, it'll take you a good 5 minutes or more.
The flight in Starhawk requires less skill. This is both good and bad. Do you enjoy being good at something you have worked hard at? In Starhawk, the pilots from Warhawk that put TONS of time into their flight skill are killed by noobs. It's good that new players can pick it up quickly, but when you get good in the air, the difference between good and bad is so small that you're going to feel like any work you put into it was in vain.
Starhawk gameplay has less action and is less satisfying. Fun rounds are inconsistent, and I struggle to have as much fun in a good round of Starhawk as I do in a bad round of Warhawk.
Ok wait you have to walk and shoot in all shooters ,and you couldn't sprint in warhawk so how could it be slower?
There was no build and battle in warhawk...... I think?
You're insane ! It requires more skill than warhawk flying, you can't hover in Starhawk so there is no stop turn and fly in a different direction to get away or hide behind a mountain and lg somebody or get an easy lock.
I honestly would like to see a noob kill a skilled Warhawk pilot in starhawk maybe a couple of noobs in beam turrets and mechs locking from the ground while they're dog fighting over homebase.
Butters did you even spend that much time on the beta?
@ the OP "Some" of the Vets are babies and can't except change and resort to ancient history .
Brainzy- wrote:
1. Ok wait you have to walk and shoot in all shooters ,and you couldn't sprint in warhawk so how could it be slower?
2. There was no build and battle in warhawk...... I think?
3. You're insane ! It requires more skill than warhawk flying, you can't hover in Starhawk so there is no stop turn and fly in a different direction to get away or hide behind a mountain and lg somebody or get an easy lock.
4. I honestly would like to see a noob kill a skilled Warhawk pilot in starhawk maybe a couple of noobs in beam turrets and mechs locking from the ground while they're dog fighting over homebase.
5. Butters did you even spend that much time on the beta?
@ the OP "Some" of the Vets are babies and can't except change and resort to ancient history .
Your logic makes little sense and is all over the place but I'll try to reply:
1. Are you serious? So because Warhawk has no designated sprint button you think that the speed at which you run and gun in Warhawk is the same as Starhawk? Do you have eyes?
2. Was referring to Starhawk. Obviously?
3. You think landing in a Mech on the pillars on Dust is hard? If you think no hover makes it harder, I question your piloting skill. If lack of hovering is so damaging to your flight then you don't even know how to fly. I don't even know why you bring up hover because that is completely separate from flying the actual hawks.
4. I went 16-4 against Kurby, 1492, BellyRanks, and 2 randoms over their homebase.
5. Yes I did. Clearly more than you.
1. Yes i do have eyes ,im so sorry you can jog and shoot in warhawk
2.Yes i know but how would it be boring without B&B it would be just like warhawk as long as they added pre built structures that you cant destroy,would that make you happier?
3.You misread my post pal, i was saying hovering in warhawk makes it easier to dodge or get away than in starhawk ,because you said it takes less skill to fly in SH, you cant just stop if you hit a mountain can you?
Is that clear now?
4.In the Air? and who was on your team, and how do you consider yourself as a noob? I thought only elite players get into BSK not noobs. LOL
5.There you go making asumptions again.
Brainzy wrote:
1. Yes i do have eyes ,im so sorry you can jog and shoot in warhawk
2.Yes i know but how would it be boring without B&B it would be just like warhawk as long as they added pre built structures that you cant destroy,would that make you happier?
3.You misread my post pal, i was saying hovering in warhawk makes it easier to dodge or get away than in starhawk ,because you said it takes less skill to fly in SH, you cant just stop if you hit a mountain can you?
Is that clear now?
4.In the Air? and who was on your team, and how do you consider yourself as a noob? I thought only elite players get into BSK not noobs. LOL
5.There you go making asumptions again.
1. Jogging > Walking. It'd me a positive difference to me.
3. I don't use hover to dodge in Warhawk so our opinions differ on this.
4. In the air, my entire team was in the homebase. The only two in the air were Leemco and I, but it isn't like I stole all his kills. And I'm not a noob but I'm definitely not elite.
5. Yeah I was just trying to be mean
ButteredScones wrote:
Brainzy wrote:
1. Yes i do have eyes ,im so sorry you can jog and shoot in warhawk
2.Yes i know but how would it be boring without B&B it would be just like warhawk as long as they added pre built structures that you cant destroy,would that make you happier?
3.You misread my post pal, i was saying hovering in warhawk makes it easier to dodge or get away than in starhawk ,because you said it takes less skill to fly in SH, you cant just stop if you hit a mountain can you?
Is that clear now?
4.In the Air? and who was on your team, and how do you consider yourself as a noob? I thought only elite players get into BSK not noobs. LOL
5.There you go making asumptions again.
1. Jogging > Walking. It'd me a positive difference to me.
3. I don't use hover to dodge in Warhawk so our opinions differ on this.
4. In the air, my entire team was in the homebase. The only two in the air were Leemco and I, but it isn't like I stole all his kills. And I'm not a noob but I'm definitely not elite.
5. Yeah I was just trying to be mean
1.But accuracy equals serious business
2.the answer is yes?
3. i ment elude or avoid pilots not missiles.
4. just half of his kills
5.awesome.
