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Fender Bender
ballsmakinze
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Re: Starhawk America! VOTE!

Awesome movie! I was just thinking about that movie.

oh 1 more thing Pigrim...

If I could just get you to change your policy on outposts we'd be friends.
Lmfao
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Origami Killer
Mini_Sal
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Re: Starhawk America! VOTE!


TX11 wrote:

@samo            They pay less taxes then us because it is taxed under capital gains.      What is capital gains?    Capital gains is money made off from an investment.   You invest money and take the risk of losing it all.    So the money the rich invest into capital gains is money they already earned and therefore that money was taxed when it was earned at the income tax level and then invested into businesses and such and if a profit is made it is taxed again at the capital gains rate.  So essentially you are incorrect they do not pay less then the minimum wage worker in part because the money was taxed twice.   Once when they made the money and then again if the investment makes a profit.  so in turn if they pay 15% on their income and then 15% on capital gains   that is a 30% tax over time.  This also doesn't include state taxes local taxes or sales taxes. 


very concise and to the point. Good explanation.

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Sackboy
TX11
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thank you mini sal

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PLYMCO_PILGRIM
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Registered: ‎12-21-2007

Re: Starhawk America! VOTE!


TX11 wrote:

@samo            They pay less taxes then us because it is taxed under capital gains.      What is capital gains?    Capital gains is money made off from an investment.   You invest money and take the risk of losing it all.    So the money the rich invest into capital gains is money they already earned and therefore that money was taxed when it was earned at the income tax level and then invested into businesses and such and if a profit is made it is taxed again at the capital gains rate.  So essentially you are incorrect they do not pay less then the minimum wage worker in part because the money was taxed twice.   Once when they made the money and then again if the investment makes a profit.  so in turn if they pay 15% on their income and then 15% on capital gains   that is a 30% tax over time.  This also doesn't include state taxes local taxes or sales taxes. 


Well said TX, Well said and accurate.


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AmnesiaHazeMMXI
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Registered: ‎06-30-2012

Re: Starhawk America! VOTE!

Great movie.

"I'm laying this down teddy"

" top two pair"

" it's a monster hand an I'm gonna lay it down cos you've got 2,4 and I'm not gonna draw against a made hand"

....matt damons second greatest moment.....his number one of course was team ameaaarrricaaa
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PLYMCO_PILGRIM
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Registered: ‎12-21-2007

Re: Starhawk America! VOTE!


ballsmakinze wrote:
Awesome movie! I was just thinking about that movie.

oh 1 more thing Pigrim...

If I could just get you to change your policy on outposts we'd be friends.
Lmfao


:smileytongue:     Get yourself a good lobbyist to change my mind  :smileyvery-happy:


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Sackboy
TX11
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@samo      Also  man 2 other facts for you       you say wars don't lead to economic prosperity that is incorrect   ww2 is what brought america out of the great depression not fdr policies   you can check the history if you want but thats a known fact.     also   most people who make minimum wage and are of low income pay no taxes.   When you file your income taxes in april every year.  the poor always get more back then they paid in.  I know this first hand.   Last year my wife and i grossed almost 40k for the year.  we payed in together about 4k  we got back almost 7k   why do i get more money back then i payed in.  that is redistribution in the form of tax exemptions.  that also means someone else paid taxes to the feds in turn so they could give it to others.

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Fender Bender
ballsmakinze
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@pilgrim
I'm sending Irres with a huge "gift bag" to "help" you see the light.

Ha!
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Origami Killer
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TX11 wrote:

@samo      Also  man 2 other facts for you       you say wars don't lead to economic prosperity that is incorrect   ww2 is what brought america out of the great depression not fdr policies   you can check the history if you want but thats a known fact.     also   most people who make minimum wage and are of low income pay no taxes.   When you file your income taxes in april every year.  the poor always get more back then they paid in.  I know this first hand.   Last year my wife and i grossed almost 40k for the year.  we payed in together about 4k  we got back almost 7k   why do i get more money back then i payed in.  that is redistribution in the form of tax exemptions.  that also means someone else paid taxes to the feds in turn so they could give it to others.


Don't like the spin on this one. The cost of living and what is considered to be "poverty" is set way too low. Just my own personal opinion. Do you have children? As for wwII and FDR policies.... WWII is the easier one to point to and say yuhhp this brought us out of depression into prosperity, however I think FDR policies did GREAT things for this nation

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Sackboy
TX11
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i have 3 children sal     my point was    i have no problem getting back what i payed in which would have been 4k.  But to give me 3k more then i payed in is redistribution.

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