May 20 2008
By: supermanwiz Fender Bender 3682 posts

[PFIGU] Playstation Forums Investigational Games Unit~Virtua Tennis 3 or Top Spin 3 Tennis?

4 replies 16 views Edited May 20, 2008


SUPERMANWIZ Sports Unit Division~ Playstation Forums Investigational Games Unit



What features would you like to see improved or added to these games,for possibly vitrua tennis 4 or what should have Top Spin 3 added,which game do you prefer?


I have never played any top spin tennis games before but i read there perviews and liked what i saw for the upcoming it is...


In the relatively small world of tennis games, the Top Spin series has carved its niche as a realistic but playable interpretation of the sport. However, given that the last game hit the Xbox 360 near the beginning of the console's life cycle, fans have been waiting nearly two years for a bona fide sequel. 2K Games is going to answer those calls with a game that aims to take advantage of the graphical and technological advancements that have occurred in the meantime. We got to take a first look at the game on the Xbox 360 ahead of its release in early 2008, when it will also be hitting the Wii and PlayStation 3 for the first time.


Although previous Top Spin games have been quasi-realistic, the aim of the French developer has been to increase this facet of the game for the third outing. The general idea has been to treat the sport with the same sort of respect usually reserved for football games, and the control system has been substantially modified to reflect this. Now, instead of simply pressing the face buttons to take a shot, your presses have to be timed to relate to the position of the ball. The four buttons each relate to a different type of shot, but you now press the button to pull your racquet backwards and release it to take the shot. If you get into a strong position and let go at the optimal point, you can play a strong and accurate shot. However, if you're in a bad position or let go at the wrong point, your player will be forced to adapt and will lose accuracy as a result.

This system appears set to offer you more maneuverability, and will undoubtedly allow more control for advanced players than ever before. However, without being able to try the system out at our demo day, we were still concerned about its impact on Top Spin's more casual fans. The developer claims that the system doesn't alienate these players, but instead adds depth for serious players. 2k claims that people will still be able to pick up a pad and play, and as they uncover the advantages of timing and position they'll become more advanced at the game.

Another aspect of the control system that's changed is the advanced shoulder-button shots, which have been dropped in favour of "risk shots" on the same buttons. Whereas before, the triggers were used to pull off trickier but more effective shots, now the right trigger is used to apply risk to the shot played on the face button. The resulting shot will teeter closer to the line and may end up going out, but it will have more power and may wrong-foot the opposition. The real skill in using the risk shot lies with positioning yourself and timing your swing correctly.


However, not all of the changes lie in the control system. The graphics look suitably enhanced, with superb animation effects combined with a silky 60-frame-per-second running speed. Characters feature full cloth deformation, and even more impressively, sweat that makes clothes clingy and dirty. Thankfully, players don't have that slightly plastic look to them, either; both real-life and player-created models are highly realistic. Twenty-five licensed characters such as Federer and Sharapova will be making an appearance, although you won't be playing against such highly ranked players until quite some way into the single-player tournaments.

Although many of the world's biggest tennis names have made a return in Top Spin 3, the developers have made a conscious effort to push people toward its advanced player-creation tools. The system still lets you create big-nosed, comedic monstrosities, but the customisation options mean you can actually create a character that looks as polished as the ones built by the original development team. All the usual options for eyes, mouth, and skin exist, but you can also adorn your character with a variety of tattoos, accessories, and makeup.

One of the biggest advancements in the sports genre has been the introduction of online leagues, and Top Spin 3 is no slouch in this area. There'll be the usual ranked and unranked match options for quick play, but the two-week seasons will be the main focus for serious players. These seasons will be a fortnightly challenge for people to take part in over the Internet, with a separate ranking board determined by the overall performance of each player. The exact details are still being worked out at this point, but it will be an area where experienced players can flex their muscles against the best players in the world. The single-player care career mode will be slightly different this year. You'll start at the local level and will build up your skills to play the continental challenge and junior tour, until you get to the major players as part of the pro tour. There'll also be a local co-op tournament mode for up to four players, as well as a legend mode where you'll face a series of individual challenges.


We got to see only the Xbox 360 version of the game at our preview, but the team assures us that the PlayStation 3 version is being developed in parallel, is definitely not a port, and will also run at 60 frames per second. Furthermore, the Wii version will work with both the Wii Remote and the Nunchuk, with the remote replicating swinging and the analog stick handling player movement. The team isn't making any announcements on a multiplayer online mode for the Wii version, although it's clear from our conversation that they've been looking into it. We'll hold our breath for more on the game ahead of its release in Q1 next year, and you can be sure that we'll pass on any information we hear.



Now Virtua Tennis 3,


Im not sure when Virtua Tennis 4 will be released or if there is going to be one ,but i have played Virtua Tennis 3 and liked it to a point but heres its review compared to Top spin 3.


The Good
  • Minigames are a blast
  • Gameplay is as smooth as ever
  • Crisp visuals.
The Bad
  • Strikingly similar to the last game
  • Lobs are worthless
  • Volleying is inconsistent
  • No online play.
var emblemTogglers = function() { $$('#review_proscons .review_emblems').each( function(emblem_group) { new emblemToggler(emblem_group); }); }; var initEmblemTips = function() { var reviewEmblemTips = new emblemTips($$('#review_proscons .review_emblems li'), {'maxTitleChars': 50,'fixed': true, 'className': 'review_emblem', 'parentNode': $('main_col_wrap')}); }; window.addEvent('domready', initEmblemTips); window.addEvent('domready', emblemTogglers);

Sega's tennis series has had a multitude of names over the years: Virtua Tennis, Power Smash, and Sega Sports Tennis. While the names may differ depending on location and year, the games have always been easy to pick up and play and hard to put down. Virtua Tennis 3 is a great game that holds true to that winning formula. There are some new minigames, and the career mode has been fleshed out, but it's clear that the developers were focused on refining the gameplay rather than reinventing it.


The create-a-player option lets you make some far-out and groovy players.

Virtua Tennis' biggest lure is its career mode, which is deeper than in previous games but still pretty basic when compared to most other sports games. You start by creating a male or female player using the game's character editor, which doesn't hold a candle to the one found in Tiger Woods but still gets the job done. After you select a spot on the globe for your home, it's time to start on your 20-year quest to go from the 300th-ranked player to the top-ranked player in the world. But you can't just rush out and take the top spot; you'll need to start by training your player. This can be done by going to tennis school or by playing minigames. Going to tennis school is a great way to learn the basics while at the same time leveling up your player. Here you're given a task, such as to hit a maximum-power forehand or finish a point with a smash. If you can do the task three times in the given time limit, the skills that you used in the test will be increased.

Tennis school is fun, but not as much fun as the minigames, which, as always, are fantastic. Each minigame focuses on one of four aspects of your game: ground stroke, serve, volley, and footwork. A few games return, but most are slight variations or altogether new. Avalanche has you collect fruit and dodge large tennis balls that roll out of the back of a dump truck. In Drum Topple, you try and knock over stacked oil drums by hitting ground strokes. Prize Defender places you in front of a table filled with prizes, and you must protect the items by volleying away shots from the ball machines. In Pin Crusher, you try and knock down bowling pins with your serve. Each of the minigames starts easy, but as you get better, the games get more difficult. They're pretty punishing on the highest levels, but you can always choose a lower difficulty setting. This yields fewer points, but it keeps the game from being frustrating. If you really love the minigames or want to play them with your friends, a handful of them can be played with up to four players on the same console.

Once you've got the basics down, it's time to start chipping away at that number-one ranking. You do this by entering the singles and doubles tournaments that are open to newcomers. Tournaments take place in locations such as Spain, China, France, England, USA, Australia, Germany, Italy, and more. You'll play day and night, as well as indoors and out on clay, grass, and hard courts. To win the early matches, you've got to take just two short games, but the matches get longer as the tournaments get more prestigious. One quirk from previous games that holds true here is rather than complementing the roster of real players with fictitious players, you'll be playing the same handful of real-life players over and over again. You might play and beat the tar out of Roger Federer your first match, which kind of takes the mystique out of facing one of the greatest players of all time.

Your stamina decreases as you train and play tournaments. If there's a tournament you don't want to miss, you can replenish your stamina with an energy drink and not lose any time, but this increases your risk of injury. To avoid injury, it's important to occasionally take a week off at home, or even go on a three-week vacation every now and then. Injuries are most prevalent when your stamina is low, but they can strike at any time. Unfortunately, there isn't much to injuries. They occur while you're in the main menu--you don't get hurt during matches. The game tells you that you're hurt and for how long, and the game simply skips ahead. You get e-mail from your coach, who will give you tips, read you fan mail, and award you items. Other players will periodically ask you to practice with them or, in a really awkward cutscene, encourage you or talk smack. There's also no money system, and you're awarded items based on your play. This feels like a step back because there isn't much in the way of items, and it was always fun to spend, like, a thousand dollars on some wrist bands.


All great players get started by picking up fruit and avoiding giant balls.

Tennis school, minigames, and e-mail--it's all secondary to the action on the court, which is excellent in Virtua Tennis 3. The game is fast-paced and arcadelike. It's a breeze to play, thanks to controls that are simple yet allow for a wide variety of shots. You can even tilt the PlayStation 3's Sixaxis controller to move your player around, but playing like this just makes the game more difficult. There are just three shot buttons, but depending on your location on the court, you can hit a top-spin shot, a slice, a drop shot, a volley, a slam, or a lob with ease. The earlier you get into position to hit the ball and press the shot button, the harder your shot will be. Serving is as simple as tapping a button to start the serve and then tapping it again when you've reached the desired level of power. You can aim your serve and your shots by pressing the analog stick or D pad as you hit the ball. Players move quickly and will automatically dive for balls out of their reach, and they rarely hit the ball out of bounds or into the net. Even though the controls are simple, there are many different ways to play. How you play the game is dependent on not only your skill, but also your opponent's skill and the type of court you're playing on. You'll see players stick to the baseline and trade forehand blasts, while some players will employ the serve-and-volley technique. The early matches are typically pretty quick, but as you get further into the game, the points grow longer. Even then, though, there's plenty of action.

This may be the most refined version of Virtua Tennis yet, but there are still some minor issues that keep the gameplay from being truly superb. Lobs are almost completely ineffective against CPU-controlled players, who get to nearly any ball lobbed over their head and will slam it right back with ease. This makes anyone who uses serve-and-volley tactics extremely difficult to beat. Volleying is inconsistent, too. Sometimes you're able to volley with authority, but other times you'll be standing at the net ready to put away a ball that's right at your racket, but your player will hit a soft shot that gives your opponent plenty of time to recover. It can also be difficult to position your player properly before a shot. Sometimes you'll hit the ball when it's too low to the ground, and other times you'll be just a hair too far away and hit a weak running shot, or worse, dive for a ball you could have easily gotten to. But these are exceptions to what is, for the most part, outstanding gameplay.

The Xbox 360 and PS3 versions are nearly identical, but the Xbox 360 version is easily the better of the two, since the PS3 version doesn't have online play. For the first time in the series, you can bring your created player online or use one of the pros and play ranked or unranked matches, and you can even set up your own online tournaments. The game is a blast to play online, and what's more, it runs smoothly without any significant lag. Using the VT TV feature, you can watch live matches and even view the day's top plays. The Xbox 360's achievement points are spread out over tasks such as winning tournaments, running certain distances, achieving the top ranking, and playing online.

Virtua Tennis 3 plays as good as it looks, especially in 1080p, which looks crystal clear and doesn't tax the frame rate at all. Player models are very detailed, and despite a few exceptions (like a rough-on-the-eyes Maria Sharapova), look like their real-life counterparts. Players move realistically, as well, and they have different-looking strokes. You'll even notice little things like players sliding a bit when they try to change directions too quickly. The courts are filled with fans and look fantastic, though you'll probably be too busy playing to notice small details like how the ball leaves a mark on clay courts or how ball boys move their heads ever so slightly to follow the path of the ball. One thing that's a bit disappointing is that there's still no user-controlled instant replay; you're at the mercy of the game (and some lousy camera angles) if you want to relive a great shot. It's also curious that you can't always play in the near court and are forced to sometimes play up top, which is slightly more difficult thanks to the camera angle.


All of the courts look great.

If you've ever played a Virtua Tennis game before, you've got a pretty good idea of how this iteration sounds. Cheesy guitar rock plays during the menus and matches; some people will love it, others will loathe it. Sound effects are spot-on, though some of the player grunting and yelling is a bit obnoxious. The crowds react appropriately to what's happening on the court, and there are PA announcers that give the score in their countries' native tongue, which is a nice touch.

Although Virtua Tennis 3 doesn't feel vastly different from its predecessor it has been such a long time since the last release that the tweaks and additions go a long way toward making the game feel fresh. There are many ways to stay occupied, and it's easy to pick up and play. If you're trying to decide between the PS3 and 360 versions of the game, the 360 is easily the better choice thanks to online play.



As of right now i am liking Top Spin 3 more, the game play looks better along with the graphics and tour/career modes,plus there is an online compatiblity which wasn't featured on virtua tennis 3 for ps3. Virtua Tennis has been out on the market for quite sometime now and is only the real competitor i see for the Top Spin series.After reading this review/preview of the two games which do you prefer to have? In my opinion i will glady call Top Spin 3 as my selection.



What features would you like to see improved or added to these games for possibly vitrua tennis 4 or what should have Top Spin 3 added? thoughts...



SUPERMANWIZ Sports Unit Division~ Playstation Forums Investigational Games Unit


Message Edited by Supermanwiz on 05-19-2008 05:18 PM
Message 2 of 5 (16 Views)
Big Daddy
Registered: 09/04/2002
19550 posts

Re: [PFIGU] Virtua Tennis or Top Spin Tennis, which do you prefer?

May 19, 2008
i prefer demo's
Message 1 of 5 (16 Views)
Fender Bender
Registered: 09/29/2005
3682 posts

Re: [PFIGU] Virtua Tennis or Top Spin Tennis, which do you prefer?

May 20, 2008

Lacarious wrote:
i prefer demo's

so do you own any games then or you just play demos all the time?

Message 3 of 5 (16 Views)
Uncharted Territory
Registered: 02/27/2008
1587 posts

Re: [PFIGU] Virtua Tennis 3 or Top Spin 3 Tennis?

May 20, 2008

Great thread, enough information and pictures. Nice.



I have Virtua Tennis 3. Its amazing graphically, but as someone said, the gameplay is like "pong". However, I would recommend it for a game to be easily to pick up, like when you invite friends to your house, after one or two sets they become used to and they are in a position even to beat you.


Moreover Virtua Tennis 3, for those who like playing SOLO, it offers great Minigames, and a interesting "career" system.


I think the game lacks more options for gameplaying.


In the other hand, Top Spin 3 exploits those things. But as seen in the pictures, the graphics in (TP3) are more cartoony.



Great Discussion this is.


I would leave the words that sum up all this.


Virtua Tennis 3 , Arcade tennis.

Top Spin 3, Tennis Simulator.

Message 4 of 5 (16 Views)
First Son
Registered: 05/21/2008
12 posts

Re: [PFIGU] Virtua Tennis 3 or Top Spin 3 Tennis?

Jun 2, 2008

Anyone who likes tennis games should check out the International TopSpin Tour   (ITST) . We host tournaments following the ATP and WTA schedules, and will be adding TS3 for PS3 when it is released.



Message Edited by RobITST on 06-02-2008 01:04 PM
Message 5 of 5 (16 Views)