People that like the game have a hard time admiting this. Only in CS can i look like a beast one min and scrub the next playing against the exact same people.
a game that has good hit detection will always have people in the room that are really good at the game, those guys will always be at the top of the leader board, game after game they will put up big numbers, why? because they are better at the game. if the gun mechanics work properly the better more skilled player will always come out on top, when the gun mechanics are flawed like cs, socom 4, socom 3 and ca, you will get different people doing good from round to round. you will not have the same people getting mvp all night long. why? because those games are games of chance not skill.
if i cared i would go and prove how the gun mechanics work, i did it for confrontation, socom 3,ca,and socom 2. i just dont really care much about this game, its not worth my time to go through all the motions.
CS tries to simulate real gun recoil and inaccuracy at full auto. I didn't say it does it perfectly, and I agree with you that yea maybe the gun wont be pointing "straight up in the air", but you get what I meant. The point was that if you don't control a gun it WILL be all over the place. It's the same reason the m14 recoils like that in S2.... it is SIMULATING REAL GUN RECOIL. Watch that SINGLE FIRE shot video that I posted and you can understand that FACT, real guns DO have a crazy kick to them and you WILL be inaccurate on full auto when compared to bursting. And I have to disagree about the stuff I highlighted in your post, I don't know what to say to you besides you obviously haven't played with people that are "good" if you think CS, Socom 3 and CA and even S4 all come down to pure "luck" and "a different guy will get MVP every time". Of ALL of those games, Socom4 is the most "luck based" because of the bloom mechanics, and yet even there you see the same MVPs / all players playing at the same level most of the time... because even with "bloom" mechanics.... the guys with better aim and better speed in which they aim at a guys chest/head will STILL win most of the time. Great players are great players in all of the games I mentioned, I know because I'm one of them. And I'm not saying that to gloat or to get one of you guys on my a$$ about it, I'm saying that for the same reason I came into this thread in the first place... I'm tired of people complaining about a game because they haven't yet taken the time to learn how it works. It DOES work. And to start talking about Socom 3's gun mechanics as well and saying THOSE don't work either says just how much you know about "how things work" or don't work on these games..... seriously lol, hate to be mean but I don't know how else to put it other than just calling you out on it because as far as I and the MANY MANY other great players I've played with on Socom3+CA I know you're 100% wrong... PLEASE show me this "proof" that socom 3's gun mechanics don't work, should be easy since you said you already have done it for that game...... cuz it sure as hell is NEWS TO ME and the others who got pretty f'n good at that game and truly KNOW how EACH AND EVERY gun works on that game and can handle ALL of those guns with EASE.... Maybe it doesn't work as forgivingly as you guys might want it to (heck even I WISH the full auto was a LITTLE easier to control... but it works PERFECTLY when you acknowledge how it works and you ACKNOWLEDGE that people have armor/more health than on other games as WELL............. and I've seen some amazing players on CS already, that are VERY consistent from what I've seen of just a FEW DAYS of practice... I've had a 40 kill game myself, and I am usually in the 15-30 range. Same with the best guys I play with. And yes, even the best players have a FEW bad games once in a while, especially when we rush out for fun or are a little off on our game. Doesn't mean the game is broken
PS: I'm still waiting for the other guy or any guy who thinks the same to give me some proof that CS has "bloom" like S4 has as he claimed. I searched the CS forum for ANY discussion of bloom mechanics and didn't find a thing. Trust me, CS pro's would be ALL OVER IT if Valve was crazy enough to put "bloom mechanics" into their hardcore game out of nowhere... just like people were complaining about it when it came to S4. But you dont't see that in the CS forum, anywhere.... why? Because there is NO "bloom" in CS: GO, unless you're talking about graphics
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S4 has around 20 map all together and S:C has 13 I think, but those maps are bigger giving more gunfight scenarios.
I agree with gunfight scenarios but I think at start s4 only had 10 maps? one is supp only I think.
No1 ever plays pro and DLC was too late.
Everyone hides in s4 at least that does not happen as much on CS with the smaller maps.
I backed H-Hour ! Why because I would rather play a game then run my mouth on a forum.
If your like me and have never played before then two games isnt enough to learn everything. It took me a good 3 hours before i was even getting kills just because i had no idea that crouching was the substitute for zooming in this game(to be more accurate). Also if you want to get your accuracy up try using burst or even single fire on every weapon especially the AK47, you are definitaly right about the headshots there are way too many.
At first i didnt like this game either until i started to dominate everything in my path which would eventually happen for you. The hit detection is actual fine in this game you just have to know how each weapon works.
Spence937 wrote:The hit detection is actual fine in this game you just have to know how each weapon works.
Nope sometimes it works and some does it does not. People have been complaining on CS forums. I am sure there are youtube videos already. I know both sides have to deal with it so it does not bother me much.
I backed H-Hour ! Why because I would rather play a game then run my mouth on a forum.
As far as shooting mechanics and hit detection goes. Before you start throwing out the you just suck line check my stats i have only had one or two bad games and those were like my first two games ever played on CS. I'm a quick learner but i also quickly learned that on this game having your crosshair on the enemy ain't good enough. Oh no not for counterstrike. You have to have your crosshair on the enemy while barely moving AND burst firing. I don't care if you're right infront of the enemy. If you hold down the trigger the bullets will spray everywhere despite the fact you're aimed right at the guy standing directly infront of him.
I unloaded a clip in a guys back and he laughed at me and turned around and shot me with one bullet in the face and im dead. Oh and don't even get me started on the amount of headshots this game gives away. This is worse than con and s4 put together i kid you not. I have also learned that even when im clearly missing a guy i have a better shot at killing him as long as im crouched. I can't tell you the amount of kills i got when there's no way in hell my crosshairs was even on the guy but i was crouching and CS respects a good croucher.
I'm sorry but this game is utter trash. The only thing it has going for it is the fact its round based. Take that away and this would be the worst game EVERRRR. The grenades don't work even if they land on your feet. If you hated that on confrontation you're gonna love it on this game. Flashbangs apparently flash me more than the enemy because even when i clearly land a perfect flashbang on a guy thinking he is blind he still kills me. I like the pistols in this game more than the assault rifles and sub machine guns. What does that tell you.
I'm not bad at the game but the bullS*** I encounter is just too much to handle. The second i found out you had to crouch for the best accuracy i knew this game was gonna suck. However i still gave it a chance but then once i saw the hit detection was off to and body shots do nothing in this game that's when i threw in the towel. CS gets a 4/10 from me and that's only because its round based and i like the maps. FAIL FAIL FAIL.
Great thing about the pistol is the aim, it's pretty centered thus they are mostly accurate. Even in stand position straffing from left to right they keep a good accuracy. I love to HS ppl from distance with them waiving from one side to another... from this day I have only 3 or 4 grenade kills, definetly CS is mostly based on quick gunfights...
IMO this game is geat, since I love fast action competitive shooter, the 2 min round need great coordination right at the start of the round and good communiction trough the game,
On my side, I love playing CS:GO with my clan !
Lol, this just shows how far socom has fallen. Classic socom was a REAL tactical shooter, like this game. Now all you kiddies are coming from constipation and nocom4 to a skill based games and all of the sudden it' "I cant hit anybody, it must be the gun mechanics or the hit detection ". No. What it is is that spray n pray like on constipation doesn't work in real life, and it doesn't work on cs.
can you stop trolling please?