SOCOM 4: US Navy SEALs

[MADDENKING1980]

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DEATHxTOLL187 wrote:

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TOMBSTONE4U wrote:

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DEATHxTOLL187 wrote:

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TOMBSTONE4U wrote:

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DEATHxTOLL187 wrote:

Love or hate T4U everyone agrees he is the biggest loser here.

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Trandslation: "Ok he just stated facts I can't counter so like the typical troll I'll sidestep what he said and just throw a random  insult and hope no one notices I couldn't counter or deny anything he just stated."

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I don't feed trolls.

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If that was true you would have starved to death a long time ago. The true troll is a guy who defends a game he played for a week that even put the developer out of business simply cause he enjoys the fact other people were disappointed with it. I actually kind of feel sorry for you cause outside of these forums you're obviously a very sad and lonely person. Forum trolling is something that very miserable people enjoy. People who hate their lives and have a desperate obsession with trying to make others feel their pain lol.

The difference between you and real Socom fans is we actually had games we played and devoted a lot of time to and that's where our stances come from, we don't say we like a particular Socom based on what reaction we think we'll get from it, it's based off actual preference and lot's of play time. You have no stance. You (by your own admission in the past) go to numerous forums to troll people. It's not even about Socom for you, subect matter is unimportant to you, you simply go against the grain of any forum you happen to be on in hopes you get some attention to fill that huge void in your life of no friends and complete neglect from your parents.

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I did not read any of that thanks for wasting your time responding again. I wonder how many people do that to you.

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Come on dude, you read the whole thing and you check here everyday hoping you get a reply from someone.   That is the only reason you come to a forum for a game you stopped playing along time ago, just admit it already.

[Execrate]

No one reads all of Tombs crap you skim a line or two and it is always Same old ****

[MADDENKING1980]

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Execrate wrote:

No one reads all of Tombs crap you skim a line or two and it is always Same old ****

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We all love TOMB around here...His dedication for SOCOM is above non other.  Anyone who loves SOCOM as much as that guy is a-ok in my book.

[TOMBSTONE4U]

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Execrate wrote:

No one reads all of Tombs crap you skim a line or two and it is always Same old ****

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You think anyone outside of fellow trolls take anything you say seriously? I mean c'mon you're a late comer to the franchise who doesn't even know what Socom was all about and you've constantly flipped your stances of what you want. I mean I remember when you first started trolling my threads you would argue with me that the first two Socom sucked and S3/CA took more skill cause it had 16 vs 16 and then in Socom 4 you're saying anything with more then 4 vs 4 is stupid cause you can't use teamwork with a team larger then 4 lol. You've gone from defending new Socom and bashing the classic fans to suddenly jumping on the classic bandwagon for a classic game though still bashing the people who turned out to be right all along that were asking for that game and saying S4 would fail. You've said that the game just has to be round based to be Socom which shows you're not even a fan of Socom gameplay.  If you think all a game needs to be Socom is round based play then you clearly don't hold Socom in the same regard as the true dedicated fans of the franchise. If none of the features or modes that defined Socom are important to you then you're not a Socom fan.

[Execrate]

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MADDENKING1980 wrote:

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Execrate wrote:

No one reads all of Tombs crap you skim a line or two and it is always Same old ****

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We all love TOMB around here...His dedication for SOCOM is above non other.  Anyone who loves SOCOM as much as that guy is a-ok in my book.

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Are you kidding? He has bashed every socom other then 2....

He does not like or support socom.

[TOMBSTONE4U]

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Execrate wrote:

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MADDENKING1980 wrote:

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Execrate wrote:

No one reads all of Tombs crap you skim a line or two and it is always Same old ****

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We all love TOMB around here...His dedication for SOCOM is above non other.  Anyone who loves SOCOM as much as that guy is a-ok in my book.

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Are you kidding? He has bashed every socom other then 2....

He does not like or support socom.

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False, I loved Socom 1 just as much as Socom 2. Socom 1 is the reason I was calling Gamestop regularly when I first heard news of Socom 2 to see when I could preorder it. My complaints with the later games you mostly don't understand just as many other late comers don't understand.  For example, as someone who started with S3 you don't even get how they ruined breach, escort, and extraction by leaving the maps built around game mdoes formula. It had a pretty drastic effect in that we went from having 5 great game modes that were played regularly to Just people playing suppression and demo with some convoy sprinkled in on S3.  If you had been around from the beginning to and seen what was being said on the boards you'd have a better understanding of why the original fans are upset about the changes. It's not even just about changes, it's about total disregard for what the huge majority were giving for feedback and throwing the same changes people didn't like in the next iteration learning nothing at all.

A bad Socom game is forgivable, but when lots of fans explain to them why they weren't happy with specific parts of the game and they disregard all that feedback and put all that same crap in the next game then it goes from being a mistake, or a change idea that didn't work out  to a blatant disregard for the fans. Most good franchises will try changes but when they get heavy negative feedback on certain elements of those changes it gets addressed in the next one. Socom would basically carry over all the bad changes and then change some more key elements on top. Now had you been along for the whole ride you might get alot of that, alot of how bad changes actually ruined whole game modes why the maps copied and pasted from the SP campaign didn't work nearly as well as highly edited maps or even maps completely made from scratch to maxamize them for online play.

You as a late comer didn't experience all this or see how the fans kept getting ignored along the way for 4 straight iterations. When you tell the long time fans things like "All it needs to be Socom is a round based option" it just further shows that when you came along Socom was no longer that great so people who started then really didn't care much about them changing core and difinitive features of Socom gameplay. And to think of all the elements that made up a Socom game, all it's intriticate little details that made it unique from every other game on the market and made it so popular to begin with, it just becomes obvious that you were not a fan of Socom gameplay if you can brush all those pieces that made up Socom off and say "Eh, it just needs to be round based to be Socom". Round based is about 5% of the content that made up Socom gameplay and features. You call yourself a Socom fan but consider 95% of it's difinitive content that made it unique from all those other shooters disposable?

[Execrate]

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TOMBSTONE4U wrote:

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All I hear is a bunch of crying....  All socoms were woth playing and supporting. You are just a stalker at this point. If s2 hd comes out and it is Identical you will find a reason to whine.

[TOMBSTONE4U]

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Execrate wrote:

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TOMBSTONE4U wrote:

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All I hear is a bunch of crying....  All socoms were woth playing and supporting. You are just a stalker at this point. If s2 hd comes out and it is Identical you will find a reason to whine.

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You're showing yet again you're a late comer. When people talk about "the Socom formula" you don't even know what that means. I would like a Socom 1 or 2 HD cause it has the formula I like, 8 vs 8 as the primary focus, no vehicles, maps built around the game modes (full complete maps built for 8 vs 8 and not just cut out of a 32 player map with no rhyme or reason), a lot of environment activity that actually plays into the strategy of a map rather then just being cosmetic.

If I can't accept change then it would have been completely impossible for me to have liked Socom 2 after Socom 1. But because Socom 2 was built around the same formula as Socom 1 I liked it every bit as much. Like I said you are a late comer who never understood Socom and just troll against what you don't understand. I would like a Socom 1 or Socom 2 remake or a new Socom built around that same formula. Since you are naive and have very little knowledge of what the original formula was you can't argue or debate it so you basically deteriorate into a foaming at the mouth troll fanboy who defends the Socom name without even caring about the game. When you say you are a Socom fan and have no problem with a game like Socom 4 offering any sort of Socom in it that tells me you're a fan of the name not the game. A late comer who joined because a friend told you about Socom and you liked playing with your friends and so then buying each following Socom for you was for that reason, to play with your friends not for the game. I'd be willing to bet (even if you won't admit it) that the friends who told you about Socom originally don't even play it anymore for the same reasons most of the long time fans don't anymore. Had you been around from the beginning instead of being told about it after major changes were already made so you don't get "what all the fuss is about" then maybe you would get it. Maybe you would be smart enough to realize why Zipper is now out of business. The real fans get it, we tried to warn what would happen long ago while you cheerleaded them running the franchise into the ground cause you don't care about Socom gameplay.

[Execrate]

Is that a insult? Who cares you don't play or support socom.  You are a respawn player running around saying I played 2 socoms 8 - 10 years ago I am a vet. S4 is better then BF3 but you did not support socom once again.

You come here and talk the talk but then jump on BF.

Funny thing is BF has everything you say you hate about new socomes and they have changed just as much.....

You have become a respawn sheep but  blame it on the game.

In the end you are just a little baby in turn you missed out on some epic socom matches while playing respawn games.

[TOMBSTONE4U]

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Execrate wrote:

Is that a insult? Who cares you don't play or support socom.  You are a respawn player running around saying I played 2 socoms 8 - 10 years ago I am a vet. S4 is better then BF3 but you did not support socom once again.

You come here and talk the talk but then jump on BF.

Funny thing is BF has everything you say you hate about new socomes and they have changed just as much.....

You have become a respawn sheep but  blame it on the game.

In the end you are just a little baby in turn you missed out on some epic socom matches while playing respawn games.

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Socom 4 was garbage in that it tried to be a welfare version of BF instead of being Socom. How do you not get that? lol. We already had this debate about BF changes and you lost the first time, want to go there again? Do I need to go grab the BF 2 box from the PS 2 again and read to you what it says on the box for features lol.

Epic Socom matches? lol When a game sucks there's nothing "epic" about it. That means about as much as if I told you that you missed out on some epic COD matches (although actually you didn't cause as much as you like to bash respawn players you like to brag how yo buy and play every single shooter online to puff out your chest that you can afford a lot of video games lol).

All these so called "real Socomers" that you speak of that supported Socom 4 just like you were mostly late comers to the franchise and most of them play almost all their games in respawn. You played more respawn matches yourself in Socom 4 then I played in all the PS 2 Socoms combined lol. Like I said, you're a late comer, one thing that people who started with S3 have in common, guys like you and BaileyBoy, is that you came in when Socom was already a mess, a crappy campfest of a game cause of changes. It was decent for you guys in that it was you first taste of Socom. But because it was a scaled down version of the ones the original fans played it's always been easier for the late adopters to accept all the Socom being stripped out of the game. Like I said you don't get it. it's why you were baffled to see Socom 4 flop, and Zipper shut down, when the real fans saw it coming from a mile away cause when you put out a game that says Socom with no Socom in it that's a recipe for failure.