MS7XWDC wrote:
there are many things to be concerned about ..
we get more info on the 17th
Designing a good sim has to take so many things into account, including things from the designer's POV. Many players make the mistake of only looking at it from their POV wanting a replication, not just a simulation. Looking too closely at many leaves will stop you from seeing the whole tree.
I'll look forward to the 17th, then. To me, it sounds as if they are making a very exciting simulator.
MS7XWDC wrote:
MastrGT wrote:
Designing a good sim ....... To me, it sounds as if they are making a very exciting simulator.
a sim without: a formation lap
no safety car
might not be able to drive into the pits ourselves
game might take control over car as soon as you finish a race
doesn't sound like a sim to me
People like to forget what it is that we're discussing here. Even simulations are still supposed to be video games, and video games are always supposed to be fun. Formation laps, recon laps, and time spent behind a safety car aren't fun for anybody save a very limited handful of masochists, as they add absolutely nothing to the gameplay experience but do make darned sure to take away fun and replace it with boring tedium. The sole purpose of games is to entertain, and the instant they stop being fun is the instant they become a failure.
Racing sims simulate the driving part of racing. Much of the rest of it is just plain junk. Why not just suggest that we also have to simulate the driver putting on his uniform and getting into the car? How about we simulate him being interviewed by the press? I'm sure those things would be loads of fun for two people out there. Maybe we could throw in a mode wherein you play as one of the grounds crew pushing cars off the track after their engines have blown or picking up car parts after a crash!
IceManPJN wrote:People like to forget what it is that we're discussing here. Even simulations are still supposed to be video games, and video games are always supposed to be fun. Formation laps, recon laps, and time spent behind a safety car aren't fun for anybody save a very limited handful of masochists, as they add absolutely nothing to the gameplay experience but do make darned sure to take away fun and replace it with boring tedium. The sole purpose of games is to entertain, and the instant they stop being fun is the instant they become a failure.
I'm not forgetting. It's just the way I describe certain types of racing games and I am fully aware of the fun factor.
Fun is different things to different people, but having features that resemble a replication is quite different than what most players need or want in a racing simulator. To most people a replication is not needed and the developers know this when it comes to creating a product that will be used by the masses and not just a clique.
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