rorschach8o8 wrote:
Sedrikk1250 wrote:I've been thinking of this too. Like Xbox Live we should be able to get some value for the tropies like:
Bronze 1 cent
Silver 10 cents
Gold 50 cents
Platinum 3 dollars
For the platinum I got from COD5, I think 3 bucks is fair, it's about the price of one HD TV show.
That or credits redeemable in Home. I think the whole linking trophies with Home for rewards would be awesome and practical.
I was thinking also, what if, lets say COD5, when you get the platinum you get a ornament in Home you can show it would be however Treyarch or the developer wants it to look like. I really think playstation has more potential with this.
Lets see I have
204 Bronze, $2.00
46 Silver, $4.60
8 Gold, $4.00
1 Platinum $3.00
That's 13 bucks of work from last December (when I got my PS3) I think that's fair.
I don't think that's fair. If you think playing games is "work" and you should be paid for it than you need to look into that career field and be a tester which isn't as much fun as it sounds. Why should the developers pay you to buy their game? PSN would not be able to support this system people keep coming up with and it's frankly getting ridiculous. A plan like the OPs is feasible, asking for money for playing a game is not.
What he said.
rorschach8o8 wrote:
halowars7 wrote:
awesome idea...This is pretty much JUST LIKE MY IDEA...look it up (What Sony Could Do With Trophies {IDEA})...uh, It's not just like your idea. You want to be handed cash for trophies (obviously not actual cash but if it's redeemed for games and the such it's basically cash) whereas he wants "prizes" that aren't of any significant value so you can be rewarded without bankrupting sony or the developers. If anything it's just like my idea I posted on your thread but I just take that as brilliant minds (and minds that understand a little about economics and business structure enough to know getting cash for trophies would never work) thinking alike.
EDIT: Sorry, I didn't respond in your thread although I know I posted in a thread that had the same "gimme cash for trophies"-theme going but I don't feel like digging through my history trying to find it. The point being, however, that money for trophies couldn't work and "prizes" at least could be set up in a usable business model.
actually it IS just like my thread...if u read it again...and more carefully u might find that i said i NVR wanted CASH for trophies...i just wanted ACHIEVEMENTS...just like what the guy who posted this said...
halowars7 wrote:
rorschach8o8 wrote:
halowars7 wrote:
awesome idea...This is pretty much JUST LIKE MY IDEA...look it up (What Sony Could Do With Trophies {IDEA})...uh, It's not just like your idea. You want to be handed cash for trophies (obviously not actual cash but if it's redeemed for games and the such it's basically cash) whereas he wants "prizes" that aren't of any significant value so you can be rewarded without bankrupting sony or the developers. If anything it's just like my idea I posted on your thread but I just take that as brilliant minds (and minds that understand a little about economics and business structure enough to know getting cash for trophies would never work) thinking alike.
EDIT: Sorry, I didn't respond in your thread although I know I posted in a thread that had the same "gimme cash for trophies"-theme going but I don't feel like digging through my history trying to find it. The point being, however, that money for trophies couldn't work and "prizes" at least could be set up in a usable business model.
actually it IS just like my thread...if u read it again...and more carefully u might find that i said i NVR wanted CASH for trophies...i just wanted ACHIEVEMENTS...just like what the guy who posted this said...
Here is a quote from your first post in said thread,
"
So what if we were able to TRADE trophies for things on the PSN Store...what i mean is that Sony should make a Money system that
you would be able to trade in a certain amount of trophies for dlc,games,themes,etc.
here's a small example:
10 bronze trophies = 1 dollar
10 silver trophies = 3 dollars
10 gold = 10 dollars
1 plat. = 25 dollars
"
Yes, you may call it achievements but if what you're "trading in" for is DLC that costs money or new games that cost money then you are basically asking for "cash". The guy who posted this never put a monetary value on any of the prizes and the prizes don't consist of anything like map packs or other large DLCs, just small things like avatars of themes that could make Sony and the Devs lose significant money.
rorschach8o8 wrote:
halowars7 wrote:
^^...lol u get my point...he just used a different FUNCTION...i put TRADE function he put Achievement function...i guess that's all that makes the differenceNo, that's not the difference. You seemed to have this same problem in your other thread when people tried to explain it to you. You think someone giving you a ten dollar game is a good reward for playing a game. It isn't, it would be very difficult to maintain a profit if a company had to give back ten to twenty dollars for each fifty dollar game the consumer buys. The original poster wants to reward the player with things that are already given away for free like avatars and themes but will just be exclusives for people who win trophies. Go to an aracade and play some skeeball and after you win some tokens see if they'll give you a free skeeball machine. They won't. You'll get a prize that usually would have been cheaper to go to the store and buy yourself. I understand what you are saying but I don't think you understand what you are saying or what the poster is saying.
lol...i do understand what your saying and where ur coming from...and i get your point...and i also remember sony announcing something about free home spaces/themes and a trophy room...
and with the new 3.0 update they might make the NEW THEMES and NEW AVATARS available to buy premium (could be with a certain amount of trophies)...or for free
rorschach8o8 wrote:
evilfixx wrote:
So, if I were to get a PS3 game on GameFly, then play it until I got every trophy in-game then went on to another GameFly game would it be fair to those who bought the game and got the trophies? My brother beat Dead Space and then let me borrow it. I got about 90% of the trophies. Am I allowed to benefit from someone elses purchase or a rental? Turning trophies into some sort of currency just opens up a lot of crap with PSN.Reread the original post. It doesn't mention a "currency" any where. Your example would be completely fair following the idea of "prizes" since it would be a nice little reward for accomplishing a certain amount of things without it being a monetary give away.
"Earning Trophies on your PS3 these days isn't as exciting as it was when Sony introduced them to us last year. I mean, it's still very fun to try and collect certain trophies, or to unlock a trophy 'by accident' every now and then, but what I'd like to see is some sort of 'Reward-system'. Right now, you're just 'leveling up'. But... why?
Sony said they want to reward their customers, so here's a few suggestions on how they could do this:
Trade your Trophies for 'PS credits'
In the PlayStation Store, there should be a section that holds specific and exclusive content, that can only be unlocked and 'paid for' with the Trophies you've earned.
In the Store, you should be able to 'convert' your earned trophies into credits (using currencies that make sense - where Silver Trophies are worth more than Bronze, and Gold more than Silver etc). With this converted credits, you can purchase several items, such as (for example):
• New and exclusive user avatars (which can't be selected by users that didn't 'pay' for it)
• Exclusive themes
• Exclusive wallpapers
• Exclusive game-related 'themes' to spice up your PSN Gamercard/User profile
If you have earned a Platinum trophy for a game, it would be nice to see the developers create some exclusive content to reward the players. Things like:
• Exclusive game-related themes
• Bonus-movies ('making of', 'deleted scenes' or unreleased trailers etc)
• Exclusive game-related user avatars
• Exclusive downloadable content, which can only be unlocked and used by players that have the Platinum trophy for that game (alternative outfits, a new weapon, new 'icons' or 'colors' for multiplayer-characters etc)
Of course, there is a lot more that Sony could do with this. These are just some ideas.
There has been talk about potential 'cheating' (by creating new accounts, for instance) and getting 'free games' in this thread... Now, to clear things up: I'm not talking about FREE GAMES. I'm talking about little 'goodies'. Small rewards.
If someone would create a new account to get new Trophies, so he/she can 'buy' new rewards, what difference would it make?
Wouldn't it be easier to just use your existing account and get new Trophies (while working on getting Platinums and levelling up your Trophy-level while doing so)?
Sure, getting a few 'easy' Bronze trophies in the first part of a game while using a new account would get you a few 'credits' a little earlier. And then what? They can only buy small items (but only things like wallpapers/themes, which can be 'shared' - no user avatars/medals/awards that go into your profile and/or gamercard).
As I mentioned, Bronze Trophies are worth less than Silver or Gold Trophies. So, in a way, there is no way cheaters could 'benefit' from creating new dummy-accounts/profiles to get items easier, because it's better to just keep using your own account and savegames - as you'll unlock Trophies that are worth more, because they require longer playtime and are much harder to get).
How do you feel about this?
Feel free to contribute. I'd be happy to add your ideas to the OP."
I quoted it for you to reread and highlighted it for you...
It is a monetary give away if there is "credit" for trophies you get for playing a game. If getting X points for Bronze, Silver, and Gold to allow you to get things for free on PSN isn't a form of online credit or currency then what is it?
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