
08-25-2011 09:28 PM
I think the problem we're experiencing has just as much to do with the current generation of gamers, as it does with modern devs. So many gamers seem to be unable to enjoy games that don't have shooting elements, or lack multiplayer, or don't have trophy support, that it seems almost natural that devs want to cash in on that part of the video game market. On the other side of things, we have motion control and casual gaming, which appeals to another big crowd. Then, there are those of us who are stuck in the middle, and just want a good variety of games that present us with quality video experiences, regardless of genre, and don't copy each other to the point where they're indistinguishable from one another. Unfortunately, it seems that we're in the minority. Everyone else seems to want to buy the same game over and over, and play it for hours on end.
Thankfully, quality titles do exist. Unfortunately, we have to be well informed if we hope to stumble upon them. I recommend avoiding reviews, and instead listening to what other gamers with similar tastes have to say. An online community is a great place to start, if you want to get other people's opinions, and you're already here, so that shouldn't be a problem. I recommend trying some downloadable titles. You may be surprised at what you can find in that form. The downloadable format seems to allow certain titles to thrive, that wouldn't in the form of disc based games. Handhelds have yet to be consumed by the fps genre, and I can say that I've found some unique titles on both of the last gen handheld systems. In my experience, I've rarely been disappointed with cult classics. And by cult classics, I mean games that have a small, but dedicated niche of fans. HD Collections are also worth checking out, especially if you missed any must play ps2 titles. And no one said there was anything wrong with retro gaming. There are some quality titles out there that you'll likely enjoy. Just keep looking, and don't give up hope. I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for eventually.
08-26-2011 06:56 AM
Yeah, At one of the local gamestops by me there was literaly two whole rows of call of duty games. I loved the story of mass effect 2 but i found the gameplay to be reppettitive. All it was is shoot alien A walk to a person and talk to them. repeat. I would have enjoyed it more if it werent the same thing. I only have about 12-13 ps3 games and over 50 ps2 games. I just hope the next generation games will be more then shooters because im sick of playing the same game over and over.
08-26-2011 04:38 PM
08-27-2011 12:40 AM
FrescanteBozak wrote:
Not sure how this sounds, but I think part of the problem is that companies are shying away from new IP's for fear of failure, and seem to shoot for AAA sequels since they're known commodities. Obviously it's not the entire problem, but a part of it.
Yup... It basically goes back to what I said about development costs. Games have gotten too big & too expensive for their own good. The costs are stifling creativity. I hate to say this, but what we really need is another big crash, like the one in the 80's.
08-27-2011 12:43 AM
It's a cycle between gamers & developers kind of like the one that exists when someone is fresh into the world & looking for their first job.. One can't get a job without experience... One can't get experience without a job... 'Round & 'round it goes. I think the same kind of situation exists (to a degree) between gamers & developers today. Developers don't make the games, so gamers can't experience them... The gamers have no experience with the games, so there's no demand for developers to make them. The problem is that games cost so much to develop, developers are afraid to take a chance on anything that's not exactly like what's hot at the moment. Unfortunately that means what's hot at the moment stops changing, because there is nothing else to move on to. I blame both sides. Developers for being too scared (and unimaginative) to actually develop, and gamers for being so complacent & easy to please.
As far as listening to reviews or gamers or whoever, as to what titles are good... I've spent literally hours in gaming stores, searching for games. I've gone through every title on store shelves with absolutely no luck in finding something that might interest me. I'm not going to lie, there are quite a few games this generation that I have really liked... Test Drive Unlimited (original), Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo 5, Dragon Age Origins, Alice Madness Returns, The Sims Castaway, L.A. Noire, etc, etc. But there's a big difference between having to search & search for something that I only might like and there being so many different titles on shelves that I couldn't possibly ever collect & play them all. That's the difference between past generations & this one. As for downloadable games... I won't buy something I don't get an actual physical copy of, period. I don't download music, movies or games. The only thing I will download is extra content for games that I already have a physical copy of. If/when games go DL only, I will stop gaming.
08-27-2011 05:47 PM
OGPooh wrote:
FrescanteBozak wrote:
Not sure how this sounds, but I think part of the problem is that companies are shying away from new IP's for fear of failure, and seem to shoot for AAA sequels since they're known commodities. Obviously it's not the entire problem, but a part of it.
Yup... It basically goes back to what I said about development costs. Games have gotten too big & too expensive for their own good. The costs are stifling creativity. I hate to say this, but what we really need is another big crash, like the one in the 80's.
And I don't see that crash coming. The video game industry is basically bringing in more money than the film industry nowadays. Sadly creativity suffers for big blockbusters. At least there's some companies out there willing to go out on a limb (ie. Quantic, and a few more).
08-28-2011 09:43 AM
i disagree, i think the one thing Sony does better than all other platforms is diversify the lineup.
08-29-2011 10:10 PM
OGPooh wrote:
SweetPoison13 wrote:
Deadly_Rabbit123 wrote:
Seriously, All the games that seem to be coming out Are all the same.
Here is the summary of a trip to Gamestop:
walk into the store, walk to the ps3 area, heres what games i mostly see:
shooters, shooters, 2-3 rows of call of duty games. A few sports games, 1 or 2 Rpgs. and
thats about it. Really?? I just wish there where more games that where made then just shooters.If there really are 2-3 rows of Call of Duty video games then this really needs to stop. >XD I would say, “Pick up Catherine!" or something but you didn’t say that you were looking for video game recommendations. With that being said, I have found my fair share of video games that do not fall into the first-person shooter or third-person shooter genres (take that for what it’s worth).
Overall, this generation is narrowly focused to a ridiculous level. Sure, there have been a few (quality) titles that don't fit the mold, speckled in here & there. But it used to be that almost every game on the shelf was different. Now, not only do a small handful of genres get all the attention... But other genres are slowly being homogenized into the ball of cookie dough that does fit today's narrow minded mold. Far too large a percentage of today's games are either straight-out shooters (IE: almost any game on the shelf), have an overabundance of shooter elements (IE: Mass Effect) or are a franchise from some other genre that is being transformed into a shooter (IE: Resident Evil). Someone who hadn't experienced true variety in gaming first hand, may have a tough time seeing that the vast majority of today's games are really all the same.
At least PS3 has games like Heavy Rain, LittleBig Planet & ModNation Racers. The 360 is almost completely FPS.
I agree, there needs to be more games like Flower, Flow, Linger and Shadows and Auditorium because atleast with those it was something different. I'm so tired of Call of Duty, I never used to play shooters until this Gen and its "peer pressure" but in reality I have less of the current Gen games than pass Gen. I remember PS2 having Jak and Daxter and I was into Ratchet & Clank but then THAT turned into a shooter tittle with Ratchet Deadlocked.
I also agree with the post saying its the current demand of games thats driving Devs ro make more shooters but when will people wake up and realize its not just about fighting and shooting people? Not ALL the time. Sometimes you need a little escape into another world to explore and ask questions. That's what Adventure games are to me Imo.