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Used games the cause of the $10 dollar price hike on games this gen?

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From an article on Kotaku.

 

Gamasutra's Paul Hyman has a gloom and doom look at the used games market and why publishers are very unhappy with the situation; the comments section is surprisingly lively, and it's worth a look.

While GameStop (the main player in the used game market) management declined to comment, but several industry types (like David Braben of Frontier) put in their two cents. On how the used game market is bad!!!!!! for the industry at large, Braben had this to say:

"... don't see anything from the used-game sales, which is one reason why the price of new games throughout the industry remains artificially high," he says. "I mean, the industry has to make all its money from the first sale since we don't get a penny from the subsequent dozen or so sales of that same game."

The used-game market may also be negatively affecting the quality of games, he notes. "Five years ago, a great game would have sold for a longer period of time than for a bad game — which was essentially our incentive to make great games."

"But no longer. Now publishers and developers just see revenue the initial few weeks regardless of the game's quality and then gamers start buying used copies which generates money that goes into GameStop's pocket, nobody else's."


I don't think that used games are the cause. They were around last gen and they didn't raise the price on games then. Cause of the price increase is the reason why I buy more used games this generation so far. I wish developers and Gamestop could come to an agreement. If not developers are probably going to go to unnessecary measures to try and put a dent in used games sales. We've already heard some small talk about it. Frankly as I said already I'm in full support of used games. Especially if prices on games stay like they are.

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Good thread, certainly worth discussing. Of course the industry frowns on the used game market as it hurts their profit margins... too bad. I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over EA not having a monumental year because of pre-played game stores. This is the nature of the market, much as it is with cd's, dvd's, clothing... anything really. Big business has to realize that not everyone in today's unstable economy can afford $60-$65 for a new game.. its that simple. Personaly, I applaud second hand gaming stores as they provide us with the opportunity to trade, buy and sell..  The only grief I have with shops like Gamestop or Eb games is that they take you for a ride in terms of what they give you for a used title... GREEDY. Again, great thread, thats just my two cents.
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Used game sales have always been part of video game industry, it's really just being used as an excuse by the developers and publishers to justify the higher prices. Its like getting charged by Airlines for taking a second bag on the plane.
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Used games are not the cause of higher prices of new games. There were NES/SNES games that cost $60/70 brand new nearly 20 years ago.

 

Inflation - $60 today would've bought $38 worth of stuff 20 years ago. More complicated hardware. Higher development costs. These factors lead in more towards the high cost of games than the used game industry.

 

Yes, 10 to 15 years ago a bad game stayed on the shelves longer because there was no place for people to trade in old game or buy used games. (Except for yard sales.)

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If you buy used games, you are contributing to the injury of an industry. I never buy used games
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I've heard this arguement many times before and it's pretty laughable. Does the used game market have any effect on the overall video game market? Probably, but this is something that every industry has to face. When people buy a product they might sell it at some time in the future and it's their right to do so.  People have been reselling their used stuff forever and it's never going to stop. As previously mentioned, games used to be more expensive than they are now (some were as high as $100 per cartridge), but over time we have actually seen a decline in price due to cheap optical disks. 

 

The price has moved up from $50 to $60 for a couple of reasons; increased development costs, increased labor costs, increased adversiting costs, increased material costs, increased shipping costs, inflation, increased competition, ect. Or to put it more simply, it costs more to sell a game today than it did 5 years ago or even 1 year ago.

 

...Am I too worried about the increase in the price of games? Not really, but then again I usually wait for the price to drop. For example, The Orange Box came out one year ago and it's already $20, and Metal Gear Solid 4 came out a matter of months ago and it's already below $40 at some stores.  

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thatonekid393 wrote:
If you buy used games, you are contributing to the injury of an industry. I never buy used games

C'mon thatonekid, the 'INJURY'?... really? How exactly is the industry injured aside from it not maximizing profits from solely selling brand new games? I think big gaming companies are doing just fine as in terms of revenue. Do you ever 'thrift shop' and feel sorry for adidas or levis?? Same thing.. and I dont think you do.

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i agree with thatkid. i don't buy used games either.  if the makers wanted to make more money release first as a download.  then 6 months down the line release a hardcopy.  change with the times or you will lose money.  i have no sympathy for poor business decisions.
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thatonekid393 wrote:
If you buy used games, you are contributing to the injury of an industry. I never buy used games

I never buy used game either. I want to support the people who worked hard on the product that I am purchasing. I cannot stand gamestop and their screwed up policies. I really hope gamestop/ebgames collapses. The entire video game industry depends on consumers (us) purchasing games as brand new.

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thatonekid393 wrote:
If you buy used games, you are contributing to the injury of an industry. I never buy used games

The $60 retail price is also contributing to it. I don't think it's hurting as much as some people make it out to be. It's hardly an injury when the industry makes more and more money overall each year in hardware sales and game sales. Whether Gamestop was trying to spin things in their favor or not remains to be seen, but they recently said that 2% to 3% of used games that are sold are games freshly released. The other ones are much older titles that have already had the biggest amount of sales that they're going to get.

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