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i wont be doing any name calling just because i don't like the baby outfit.

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so, if it'll make money, thats all that matters, is that what you're saying?

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fyi, i am canadian

i'm not offended by the baby outfit costume, just concerned that it could atrrack the wrong crowd.

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This is really sad.  Especially coming from a forum consisting of primarily Americans.

I would expect this from a bunch of my fellow easily offended, socialist Canadians.  But you guys?

Surely you must realize that there is as varied a multitude of opinions about any subject among the "guys" in the United States as there is in Canada (in fact, we are almost the same country now in so many ways).

If anything, I would expect Americans to be more offended by explicit content (sexual, comedic or otherwise) than Canadians given the strong history of Christian puritan values in their country. You need only compare the views of Canada, the US and Europe on very controversial social issues like homosexuality, legalized prostitution, and legalized marijauna use to see this. In "socialist" Europe, prostitution, same-sex marriage and marijauna are legal in a number of countries. In Canada, same sex marriage is legal and the Liberal "socialist" government was doing studies on legalizing prostitution and marijauna before they lost power to our current more puritan Conservative government. In the United States, legalizing same sex marriage, prostitution and marijauna is not considered acceptable by the majority of (voting) constituents.

I only mention the above to point out that, despite what you may believe, America is really not the last great bastion of libertarian freedom you seem to imply. Like any country, it has its own unique culture and social norms and history of tolerance (and intolerance) toward various things. And the world is more interesting because of that.

Therefore, it's ridiculous to presuppose as a Canadian what a random sampling of American Home users will think about any given subject. I encourage you to consider taking off your ideological blinders when viewing issues like "freedom" - the world is just not that simple.

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Whoever developed those diapers should get a slap in the face.

Same goes for whoever purchases them

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fyi, i am canadian

i'm not offended by the baby outfit costume, just concerned that it could atrrack the wrong crowd.

Hip Hop music could attract the wrong crowd.  Should we ban that?

Home users under 18, could attract the wrong crowd.  Should we ban them?

A Ferrari on the street, can attract more car thieves.  Should no one be allowed to drive them?

Why must we punish the innocent for the potential actions of the guilty?

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Burmecian_Rat wrote:

Surely you must realize that there is as varied a multitude of opinions about any subject among the "guys" in the United States as there is in Canada (in fact, we are almost the same country now in so many ways).

If anything, I would expect Americans to be moreoffended by explicit content (sexual, comedic or otherwise) than Canadians given the strong history of Christian puritan values in their country. You need only compare the views of Canada, the US and Europe on very controversial social issues like homosexuality, legalized prostitution, and legalized marijauna use to see this. In "socialist" Europe, prostitution, same-sex marriage and marijauna are legal in a number of countries. In Canada, same sex marriage is legal and the Liberal "socialist" government was doing studies on legalizing prostitution and marijauna before they lost power to our current more puritan Conservative government. In the United States, legalizing same sex marriage, prostitution and marijauna is not considered acceptable by the majority of (voting) constituents.

I only mention the above to point out that, despite what you may believe, America is really not the last great bastion of libertarian freedom you seem to imply. Like any country, it has its own unique culture and social norms and history of tolerance (and intolerance) toward various things. And the world is more interesting because of that.

Therefore, it's ridiculous to presuppose as a Canadian what a random sampling of American Home users will think about any given subject. I encourage you to consider taking off your ideological blinders when viewing issues like "freedom" - the world is just not that simple.

All very true.  However, this costume, in it's original use, was purely comedic, with no sexual overtones at all.  The sexual overtones are a modern interpretation, that are still overshadowed by the traditional comedic interpretation.  Except in the minds of those who are offended.

As such traditional puritan view points shouldn't apply to what is traditionally been a non sexual comedic costume.

And yes I am generalizing.  However, I have seen the erosion of personal freedoms of choice and speech in my country of Canada.  It is not the same country it used to be.  Human Rights tribunals imposing fines and penalties on people where our own courts, both civil and criminal, have found them innocent of any crime.

People afraid to say or do anything for fear of offending some group who will then bring them before these tribunals at no cost to the group claiming offense, but at total cost to the defendant.

I see many of the public attitudes that superseded this development in Canada happening South of the boarder.  The writing is on the wall.

If one has lived in Canada long enough, they are indelibly qualified to comment on this phenomenon, and it's chances of it happening in another country.  And anyone who has lived in Canada and not noticed that this has happened here, they are the ones living with blinders on.

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Hmmm, now who's the bigger drama queen?

There's no drama in what I said.  Only exaggeration and sarchasim.  Big difference.  If you want to use an example, use it for the facts, not the potential perspective that can be spun to support your opinion.  Find legitimate examples to support your conclusions, and I'll back you up 100%.  Twist facts, and I'll call you on it.  No, you didn't make the original statement, but you did reference common sense when discussing people's behavior.  Common sense is not putting your hand in fire because you know it will burn you.  Acting disrespectful to women (or anyone for that matter) is simply a matter of morality and manners.  Everyone has varying degrees of each.  I don't like the way people behave on Home, but if filing a report doesn't get them banned, then PSH staff are obviously ok with it.  That doesn't mean I will behave that way, but I can't stop the lack of respect in Home any more than you can.  What I can do is ignore the rude ones on Home and enjoy all the other aspects of Home that make it worth visiting.

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