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Tarazuma wrote:

My critique and suggestions for this place.

 

The WASTErn frontier is a horrible waste of both time and money, in the worst way possible. I have not seen a more unfair and ridiculous system then the trading post in all of PS Home.

I knew from the start it would be horrible, but after visiting the space and trying everything for myself...it was multitudes worse then I thought.

First of all, panning for gold and mining are monumental wastes of time and effort. Reults like +3 gold for panning and +9 for mining per session? When stuff costs 250-500 gold? Oh heck no, especially since they are also tedious mind numbing chores I just want to end. The panning especially drags on far too long.

So obviously, the only way to get gold without losing your sanity doing menial, tedious, and even physical (in the case of panning) tasks, you must buy gold directly.

This would be fine if you could just use gold to buy stuff from the trading post directly. But no, you need trade tokens. You win trade tokens by playing games or by converting gold to tokens. 97 gold for 1 token...when stuff costs upwards of 300 tokens...are you people out of your cotton pickin' minds?!


Well, I did the math and what I came up with is a hat that has the value of 40 tokens will cost 3880 gold.  You would have to buy 4 bundles of 1000 gold at .99 per bundle to get enough tokens to buy the cheapest item there.  If you buy the 4.99 bundle that comes with 10,000 gold, you will get 103 tokens. A riding skirt is 100 tokens.  This means that a plain Jane skirt has a price tag of $5.  The horses, buffalo and donkey LMOs have a value of 2450 tokens. This means that you will have to spend $25 per LMO if you want them.

 

 

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The people currently paying absurd amounts of gold and/or working a second/third job trying to win tokens, are the same ones who got 50 wins in HGL for 1 reward and bought a $50.00 Home Tycoon coin pack on day one (with the tiny gold car pet and when it cost coins to change time of day). I'll say the same thing I told all devs with unfair systems and/or horrible reward that are still making revenue: don't feel like you are a complete success. The hardcore sycophants spending $200.00 for a LMO or grinding their life away for tokens without uttering a single complaint will literally buy ANYTHING you throw at them. 

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There is a certain logic to catering to people who just buys anything and everything on Home, since you don't have to do much AT ALL!!  Release whatever you want and they buy it LOL.  The bigger question/picture is:  Is the initial out pouring of content bought worth It, meaning would you rather get as much profit as you can all at once or keep receiving profit for a longer period of time?

 

If you want people to keep investing in your product then making changes may be a good idea, not only to keep the customers you have but to sway others into buying into it as well.  Right now the focus should be on making the space work, I have to join and leave about 3 times before it loads me in correctly, then it kicks me out of games or doesn't load spaces at all.  Imma give it a rest until these issues get fixed, hopefully by then I haven't completely lost interest in it.

 

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Navigating the Western Frontier seems to be just about as convenient as registering for Obamacare. (from what I've read)

The moral of the story: Don't contract a Canadian company to design your user interface. :smileytongue:
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OK, Im stuck in the weirdst glitch ever on home. I bought the bar maid outfit and put that on along with the hair it came with. I saved the outfit in the western frontier wardrobe, and now everytime I go there, my avatar just automatically constantly changes outfits that I have saved in the western frontier wardrobe. I have 2 outfits saved, and it keeps going back and forth between the 2. I tried accessing the wardrobe and see if I can just overwrite or delete the other outfit so it wont register, but I cant do anything in the wardrobe, but constantly automatically change outfits. I've tried exiting, and tried rejoin, but I cant even rejoin by waving, I have to leave the space in order to rejoin. Anyone else experiencing this weird glitch?

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As excited as i feel about the release of the place

It is kinda of confusing & overwhelming to understand what's going on in that place including the currency " gold, coin , trade ,real money " !

I personally feel intimidated by the whole thing

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I have less loading issues if I equip my avatar with the required attire before going to the Western Frontier space. It's not a fix, but a work around until it gets fixed..The first was Pottermore and I noticed then that wearing the required attire before entering that space helps it load faster for me. I hope that a forced clothing change in spaces isn't a growing trend in PSH.

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Here is where home is going wrong, It’s making you buy stuff to make getting rewards easyer and it is really stupid and this why a lot people won’t spend time in new space. This good example were sony has ignore it community and letting home be place for home third party developers to make money from people on home and not caring what the community wants. I refuse to spend money on home because its going down fast and you just have sit in public space and hear people complain that sony is not keeping us inform or caring about people who spent money on home over the years. My advice be if you going spend money on home just remember you supporting the down fall of home

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When it comes to the monetary issues of this location, Tranny blames fuzzy math.
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ArlingtonAvenger wrote:
 Yet another Liar's Dice bug I've witnessed involves players somehow being able to reduce their bids to a lower dice number than the one that is already being bid on.  For example, if the current bid is four 2s, they can somehow go back to bidding on 1s.  I have seen this happen in two games now, and I'm not sure what causes the bug.

 



I've also encountered this, although the biggest issue I have, is that the game isn't set up to follow it's own rules.

You're supposed to be able to increase the amount, face value or both.

 

Once someone bids a six. you can only increase the amount of six's, you can't bid a higher amount of a lesser number.

For example; If someone bids 3 six's, the next player should be able to bid 4 of any number, but you can only bid a higher number of six's.

 

1. Raising the bid: To raise a bid, the current bidder must either declare a higher number of total dice with any face value (for example, 4 twos beats 3 fours), increase the face of the dice last bid on (e.g., 3 fives beats 3 fours), or both. At this point, all players are still concealing their dice, taking turns raising the bid.





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Spicey_Lollipop wrote:

Here is where home is going wrong, It’s making you buy stuff to make getting rewards easyer and it is really stupid and this why a lot people won’t spend time in new space. This good example were sony has ignore it community and letting home be place for home third party developers to make money from people on home and not caring what the community wants. I refuse to spend money on home because its going down fast and you just have sit in public space and hear people complain that sony is not keeping us inform or caring about people who spent money on home over the years. My advice be if you going spend money on home just remember you supporting the down fall of home


Home games have always been this way. You get to play free at a very low or limited level. Hey, here at the Western Frontier, you get a free outfit, 2 free hand items, and a new personal space for free. That is better than most new game spaces. I am still sorting out the gameplay. It may not be as bad as it first seemed. It appears to be closely modeled after the Casino though, where 12-24 months are required to get the rewards.,With or without spending a lot of money, it will clearly take a lot of time. But, that is what we do, right? We waste time gaming. The difference here, is the simplistic, highly repetitive, mini games.

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