Please quote me on that. I appreciate you wasting your time to look up all that, but it is not what I said. Once again, reading comprehension is your friend.
ILLUMINE-X wrote:
Brises_0000 wrote:I have to agree that to assume the recent freeze patch was anything more than a temporary fix, was a little overly optimistic. All the celebratory threads and rubbing the freeze glitchers noses in it was going to do was make it worse when they found a new method. I would not expect to see a true fix for this version of home. I believe they are developing a version to run on the PS4, and with that they will write the code to prevent a lot of the problems that the current version is having.
Oh stop it...blaming people for being happy over a temp fix for an issue Sony should have resolved and not have premitted to begin with is such a cop out.
Thats like me saying you shouldnt cheer for the winners of the Super Bowl, because next year the losers will come and ruin the league for everyone else.
Also what makes you think Sony is the largest technology company in the world ?
FYI they are a corportaion that has more holdings in film and cinema now than anything else, and theres a difference.
Sony isn;t even in the top 10
Plus its not like people are walking up to known freezers (even the ones in the thread), and taunting them. Theyre doing it of their own malicious, juvenile will.
So save all the dont taunt them crap, people are in home for the most part to enjoy themselves and not to engage in any way with script kiddies.
Rank Company 2011(USD million) 2009(USD million) 2008(USD million) 2007(USD million) Headquarters Founded Employees(thousands) Executive head April 2, 2012 Market Cap(USD million)
1 Samsung Electronics $133,780 $117,400 $110,350 $103,400 South Korea, Seocho Gu, Seoul
1969 164.6 Lee Kun-hee, Chairman $123,642 2 Hewlett-Packard $127,120 $114,552 $118,364 $104,000 United States, Palo Alto, California
1939 325.0 Meg Whitman, CEO $96,610 3 NTT $124,330 Japan, Tokyo
1985 219.3 Satoshi Miura, President & CEO 4 AT&T $124,280 1983 294.6 Randall Stephenson, Chairman & CEO $185,070 5 Hitachi $112,400 $99,544 $114,722 $94,998 1910 400.2 Kazuo Furukawa, President $21,400 6 Apple Inc. $108,240 $32,480 $24,010 1976 34.3 Tim Cook, CEO $574,960 7 IBM $106,910 $95,750 $103,600 $98,800 1896 399.4 Ginni Rometty, Chairman & CEO $246,890 8 Verizon $106,565 1983 194.4 Lowell McAdam, Chairman & CEO 9 Panasonic $104,880 1918 384.6(2010) Konosuke Matsu**bleep**a, Co-founder; Kunio Nakamura, Chairman $29,764 10 Siemens $96,590 Germany, Berlin & Munich
1847 360.0 (2011) Peter Löscher, President & CEO 11 Sony $86,640 $79,618 $100,000 $76,201 1946 180.5 Masaru Ibuka & Akio Morita, Co-founders; Howard Stringer, Chairman, President & CEO
As stated you're wrong on both accords. Thus trying to spread your gospel of how Freezers are doing what they do because of other people makes about as much sense as your pretzel logic.
By the way it took like 5 seconds to google, copy and paste and prove that again you were wrong.
Next time you assert claims, make sure you can back them up, or its a safe bet someone will pull your card.
ILLUMIN-X wrote:As stated you're wrong on both accords. Thus trying to spread your gospel of how Freezers are doing what they do because of other people makes about as much sense as your pretzel logic.
By the way it took like 5 seconds to google, copy and paste and prove that again you were wrong.
Next time you assert claims, make sure you can back them up, or its a safe bet someone will pull your card.
Ok, let me re-state my postings in this thread in a way that even the viewers of Barney the purple dinosaur can understand:
Issue #1:
Ugh... Sony make patch for freeze glitch. Simple patch, not fix, ugh.
Ugh... Forum say YAY, freeze patched. No more freeze. Happy day, ugh.
Ugh... Formers go to Godfather and party... Rub it in freeze glitchers face, ugh.
Ugh... Formers then boast about it on the forum, ugh
Ugh.......... New freeze found....... Ugh
Ugh... Freezers mad, want to have revenge, find formers and freeze them when they see them, ugh.
Gloating made freeze glitchers worse.
Clear enough?
Issue #2:
This one is pretty simple. I said Sony is "one of the biggest" technology corporations in the world. Now, in case you missed it in kindergarten, the use of the word "one" implies "more than one" not "the only one". So... Is Sony actually one of the biggest technology corporations in the world? That depends on how many there are. Hundreds? Thousands? I would say number 11 is pretty respectable, and constitutes "one of the biggest". Fortune 500 magazine would probably agree with me.
But none of that takes away from the point I was trying to make, that Sony is a globally respected corporation and has existed for a very long time. And they didn't get that way by making stupid business decisions.
Need any more clarification?
No, to assume a corporation as respectable as Sony would deliberately allow consoles to be damaged expecting customers to buy new ones is wild speculation, because there have been many years of proven sales tactics suggesting that that is a reckless strategy.
However, "assuming" that a company is developing a version of a product to operate on a system that we already know is in development is not wild speculation. It is an assumption but it is one based on common sense.
BTW: are you suggesting that there is a backhanded insult in the post you quoted? Please clarify.
strider367 wrote:Hmm lets say your ps3 does get's the YLOD or worst. Because of all the damage taken by freezers and really bad game code here in Home. Never mind the really bad firmware used in these consoles. I been hearing a lot of complaints from my gaming friends for a very long time about the firmware. I know from my own experience that sony's patch downloads and firmware updates has always had major issues for years.
But let's say you've been very active on Psn for years. You have dozens of games and spent a ton of money on Home. Can you transfer that content to your PC to a xbox or a Wii? No you can't so if you don't have a ps3 what do you do then? I'm just curious whether you have any common sense that God gave to the common dog? Clearly you don't by making a statement like this? Your saying people would walk away from their investment?
For someone who pretends to be so knowledgeable. You don't have any clue at all? But you attack people here who are trying to get these people sit up and take notice. People who are hoping some day they will smarten up and start fixing some the major problems around here. My question is just how dumb are you? Better yet how many more ridiculous statements are you going to make? Just so I can keep count...
Brises_0000 wrote:That concept is some pretty wild speculation. Sony didn't get to be one of the largest technology corporations in the world by making stupid business decisions, and that would be a pretty stupid one. I know that If my PS3 was ruined because of something that occurred within Sony's network, I certainly wouldn't be inclined to buy another one.
Sony knows that any successful sales business depends on customer satisfaction and repeat business. I'm sure Sony does not expect dissatisfied customers to go out and buy another PS3. That concept is ridiculous.
Very well, since you did not complete your analogy, let me do so for you. The idea of a business self destructing their products with the expectation that customers will buy more is known to be a reckless strategy that will more often than not result in business failure, and here's why:
Yes if my PS3 fails I will have a tough decision to make due too the money I've spent. But Sony is not only trying to keep existing customers (although they would be keeping them under duress). They want their business to succeed for years to come. All responsible sales businesses know that word of mouth is the most effective form of advertisement possible. The ad you see on TV may make you think about buying something. But what you hear from a friend or family member who owns one will seal the deal.
So... My PS3 fails due to Sony's own network. My decision is difficult, but I have a friend who does not own a PS3, and he asks me about it because he is considering buying one. I tell him no way... Sony destroyed mine. Is he going to buy one? Not likely.
The "self destructing product" strategy can only hope to work as long as you have customers under your thumb. Everyone else who is not yet a customer... They are going to hear about it from friends and family, and the business will eventually fail.
I'm very surprised you don't realize this.
Brises_0000 wrote:That concept is some pretty wild speculation. Sony didn't get to be one of the largest technology corporations in the world by making stupid business decisions, and that would be a pretty stupid one. I know that If my PS3 was ruined because of something that occurred within Sony's network, I certainly wouldn't be inclined to buy another one.
Nice edit by the way...or have you forgotten it logs when a post is edited or changed. Just give it up Brises because YOUR ORIGINAL statement was that " Sony didn't get to become the largest technology corporation in the world".
You edited it to save face in a poor attempt to look like you knew what you were talking about AFTER I posted their standings.
In addition, trying to place responsibility on other users for the malicious actions of a few regarding freezing is stupid.
Everyday new people log into Home, so I suppose its their fault as well for being caught up in server freezes when they voice how wrong it is and Sony should do something about it.
I personally didnt go rubbing anything in anyone's face after the patch and yet I've been frozen as well...so I guess everyone but the Freezers are wrong.
Grow up
Brises_0000 wrote:No, to assume a corporation as respectable as Sony would deliberately allow consoles to be damaged expecting customers to buy new ones is wild speculation
And by the way...who said Sony as a corporation is respectable ?
I remember as a kid Sony made the biggest pieces of crap there was.
If you were caught with a Sony walkman, discman or even boombox you got laughed off the block.
Sony began making cheap Japanses electronic equipment which helped kill the American and EU markets. (ie) Pioneer, and Kenwood.
Other companys followed suit in mass production ie Awai, Yamaha, Mitsubishi and the one thing that seperated them from Sony was that the other companies (all Japanese) equipment quality was far superior when compared to the cheap mass produced products that Sony flooded the market with (and still continues to do to this very day). And in business consumers tend to go where they can save money.
Now some 30 years later sony has amassed a fortune thru acquiring movie companys (ie) TriStar, Columbia and Screen Gems as well as having a major stake in records.
Electronics is not Sonys strong point and its pretty evident after they recorded 2 billion dollars in loss last year.
You're barking up the wrong tree and dont have a clue what youre talking about.
Now on that note I'm done with this misinformation fest that you have spewed, so quit sending me profanity laden PM's
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