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Lombax Warrior
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Re: lots of items = everything takes longer

Feb 12, 2013

 

The solution is very simple... They just need to add a second storage folder.  Right now the storage folder acts simply as a spill over, so items we want are regularly forced into that storage folder with items we don't want or rarely use.  If they added a second storage folder, then we could FINALLY place items we truly rarely use into it, and leave the primary storage folder as a spill over for items we still want to use, but can't fit in the normal folders.

 

That, and at the very least they need to apply the same filtering and sorting options that are currently available for items not in storage to items in storage.

 

While perhaps more difficult to do, we also need more sub categories.  There are thousands of torso items that should be broken up into different more specific categories.  T-shirts being a definite one.   And the furnishings Assortment category is an epic mess, with thousands of items making finding things in that storage folder take forever unless they are very recent or very old.

 

The sad thing is, all of these suggestions and requests have been made month after month, some even years, and not only have they never been added to Home, but they haven't even been responded to by any so-called community manager.   Point being, they really could care less what the community wants or certainly says.  Yes, they have made changes and improvements to the service, but only on their own with little or no regard to what the community has asked for.


I might be an considered an optimistic fool by some but I believe we'll see storage and other popular fixes very soon. I have faith that they're slowly going to begin addressing all these requests. The reason I say that is because the patch notes include the ability to change clothes in another person's apartment. I agree it would have been nice if this were available a long time ago. However, it's coming and (at least to me) it's what matters. Maybe the reason Sony seems to have stopped releasing content is to work on these fixes? I don't know. lol If I'm wrong, so be it.

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Re: lots of items = everything takes longer

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The wardrobe in friends spaces, if you consider the fact that it was proven in the past to a source of problems, is really kind of a slap to the face. Well... if you have any friends that visit your spaces regularly that you dont know personally anyways.
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Re: lots of items = everything takes longer

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buckallmighty wrote:
The wardrobe in friends spaces, if you consider the fact that it was proven in the past to a source of problems, is really kind of a slap to the face. Well... if you have any friends that visit your spaces regularly that you dont know personally anyways.

OHH! I was going by the impression that people had been asking for that feature for years. If it's going to be a source of more problems, then hopefully the update will include a way to address that issue and allow people to enjoy the feature at the same time.  *Crosses fingers*

 

Example: Owner has the option to turn off any visitor's ability to change clothes in the owner's personal space.

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Yes... a lot of people seem to follow blindly, hoping whoever is in charge has things under control and are addressing every issue accordingly even though they have showed time and time again that they do not. And several have asked for that feature. But most of them probably never read the threads about it being a source of freezing.

That particular problem has been fixed but its still right where it was when whoever was bored enough to figure out how to manipulate it originally. It should have been made available ONLY in your OWN personal spaces as soon as it was found to be a problem. Instead now they make it available for anyone to access even in your friends personal spaces.

Long story short.. it is a nice concept, but i would be very careful who you invite into your spaces after its available. Just incase anyone has already found new ways to manipulate it and havent told moderation or managment anything about it.

p.s. All that said though i completely understand why moderation has gotten to the point where they dont even read most valid posts unless it is one of their friends or was asked by one of their friends to check into it. There are way to many pointless complaints to expect them to read them all

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Re: lots of items = everything takes longer

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D-Nitrate wrote:

Conrad_Max wrote:
What we can do for ourselves is to clear our Cache in Home. This may speed a few things up, but this will only be temporary.
NO NO NOOOOOO Stop advising people to do that!
True. But if we do not revisit spaces we don't normally use, this will help.

No Once again, you are saying something that is false. Cached data does NOT slow you down. Its there ONLY when you need it.

Hi all first of all all items and layouts for personal spaces we have are on a scrip file on our ps3 and when you clear you cache on home you clear all spaces you download. The items you don't download again only when you first buy it. the cache is like a browser when it gets full it it starts to slow down home.

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technerd1000 wrote:
Hi all first of all all items and layouts for personal spaces we have are on a scrip file on our ps3 and when you clear you cache on home you clear all spaces you download. The items you don't download again only when you first buy it. the cache is like a browser when it gets full it it starts to slow down home.

Layouts for personal spaces are (currently) saved on their own individual files, separate from the Script file in the saved data folder.  This will change with the 1.75 client update.

 

The cache for Home most definitely includes item data as well as space data.  That's why when you clear the cache, when you go into your wardrobe or furnishings menu, it takes so much longer to load each screen of items.  It is also why when you go to a space after clearing your cache, it takes much longer for other people's avatars to load, as it is having to redownload their wardrobe items back into your cache.

 

Also, its largely a myth that web browsers, especially these days experience any noticeable difference in speed when their cache is full.  The time it takes to write over cached data is literally in the milliseconds.  There are many reasons why a browser might experiencing slower speeds, but its extremely rare that its due to a full cache.  In fact, like Home, its much faster to have a full cache as it means less of a chance you have to reload a browser window for URL's frequently visited.

 

The only time it's reasonable to clear your cache is if their is a data error stored in the cache that isn't getting refreshed through normal use.  This is very rare.  Most of the time, simply restarting Home has the exact same effect in terms of "fixing" a problem with Home as clearing the cache, because that's what happens when you clear the cache - Home has to be restarted... But unlike restarting Home, if you clear your cache it takes a great deal longer, and you can spend hours redownloading spaces and item data as you rebuild your cache, especially those that set their cache to 12GB.

Sony's PlayStation Home updated mission statement...


"Like it never happened"


- Stand for something better than mediocrity and don't disguise it as adequate, when clearly it is far from that to anyone willing to be objective and unbiased. -

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Re: lots of items = everything takes longer

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D-Nitrate wrote:

technerd1000 wrote:
Hi all first of all all items and layouts for personal spaces we have are on a scrip file on our ps3 and when you clear you cache on home you clear all spaces you download. The items you don't download again only when you first buy it. the cache is like a browser when it gets full it it starts to slow down home.

Layouts for personal spaces are (currently) saved on their own individual files, separate from the Script file in the saved data folder.  This will change with the 1.75 client update.

 

The cache for Home most definitely includes item data as well as space data.  That's why when you clear the cache, when you go into your wardrobe or furnishings menu, it takes so much longer to load each screen of items.  It is also why when you go to a space after clearing your cache, it takes much longer for other people's avatars to load, as it is having to redownload their wardrobe items back into your cache.

 

Also, its largely a myth that web browsers, especially these days experience any noticeable difference in speed when their cache is full.  The time it takes to write over cached data is literally in the milliseconds.  There are many reasons why a browser might experiencing slower speeds, but its extremely rare that its due to a full cache.  In fact, like Home, its much faster to have a full cache as it means less of a chance you have to reload a browser window for URL's frequently visited.

 

The only time it's reasonable to clear your cache is if their is a data error stored in the cache that isn't getting refreshed through normal use.  This is very rare.  Most of the time, simply restarting Home has the exact same effect in terms of "fixing" a problem with Home as clearing the cache, because that's what happens when you clear the cache - Home has to be restarted... But unlike restarting Home, if you clear your cache it takes a great deal longer, and you can spend hours redownloading spaces and item data as you rebuild your cache, especially those that set their cache to 12GB.


hi a cache is a almost like a data cookie that everytime you visit a site it saves data on you hard drive and slow down you machine if they too much data cache on hard drive it runs slower home is the same way. Say you visit like all spaces on home yes it run alot slower because more in cache and lags alot more but say you visit the ones you visit datly yes  it will load faster without clearing cache. the more spaces you download the slow home runs.


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Re: lots of items = everything takes longer

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technerd1000 wrote:

D-Nitrate wrote:

technerd1000 wrote:
Hi all first of all all items and layouts for personal spaces we have are on a scrip file on our ps3 and when you clear you cache on home you clear all spaces you download. The items you don't download again only when you first buy it. the cache is like a browser when it gets full it it starts to slow down home.

Layouts for personal spaces are (currently) saved on their own individual files, separate from the Script file in the saved data folder.  This will change with the 1.75 client update.

 

The cache for Home most definitely includes item data as well as space data.  That's why when you clear the cache, when you go into your wardrobe or furnishings menu, it takes so much longer to load each screen of items.  It is also why when you go to a space after clearing your cache, it takes much longer for other people's avatars to load, as it is having to redownload their wardrobe items back into your cache.

 

Also, its largely a myth that web browsers, especially these days experience any noticeable difference in speed when their cache is full.  The time it takes to write over cached data is literally in the milliseconds.  There are many reasons why a browser might experiencing slower speeds, but its extremely rare that its due to a full cache.  In fact, like Home, its much faster to have a full cache as it means less of a chance you have to reload a browser window for URL's frequently visited.

 

The only time it's reasonable to clear your cache is if their is a data error stored in the cache that isn't getting refreshed through normal use.  This is very rare.  Most of the time, simply restarting Home has the exact same effect in terms of "fixing" a problem with Home as clearing the cache, because that's what happens when you clear the cache - Home has to be restarted... But unlike restarting Home, if you clear your cache it takes a great deal longer, and you can spend hours redownloading spaces and item data as you rebuild your cache, especially those that set their cache to 12GB.


hi a cache is a almost like a data cookie that everytime you visit a site it saves data on you hard drive and slow down you machine if they too much data cache on hard drive it runs slower home is the same way. Say you visit like all spaces on home yes it run alot slower because more in cache and lags alot more but say you visit the ones you visit datly yes  it will load faster without clearing cache. the more spaces you download the slow home runs.


I've tested that theory out and it simply isn't true, I even tested it with two seperate PS3s, timing load times before and after clearing cache... and of course its MUCH longer when you clear the cache as you have to also redownload GBs of data for hundreds even thousands of items (even those you don't own but used by avatars in each space you go to), but by all means clear your cache every day then... if you truly believe it will result in a faster Home.  I know for a fact that it doesn't so I don't personally rcommend it.  YMMV

Sony's PlayStation Home updated mission statement...


"Like it never happened"


- Stand for something better than mediocrity and don't disguise it as adequate, when clearly it is far from that to anyone willing to be objective and unbiased. -

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