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Western Frontier Discussion Thread

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Post your helpful tips, comments, ideas for Western Frontier (not technical issues).  

For issues with Western Frontier please post then in the [Home Support] section.   Thank You Smiley Happy

 

I was surprised to find out you cannot wear your own western gear in this space, its not a deal breaker for me and you get a free outfit, also the pick axe mining is just as troublesome as panning.

 

 

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Nov 20, 2013

I like this space. Only problem I have with it is you can't download any area that's in the space itself in the background. 

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My critique and suggestions for this place.

 

The WASTErn frontier is a horrible waste of both time and money, in the worst way possible. I have not seen a more unfair and ridiculous system then the trading post in all of PS Home.

I knew from the start it would be horrible, but after visiting the space and trying everything for myself...it was multitudes worse then I thought.

First of all, panning for gold and mining are monumental wastes of time and effort. Reults like +3 gold for panning and +9 for mining per session? When stuff costs 250-500 gold? Oh heck no, especially since they are also tedious mind numbing chores I just want to end. The panning especially drags on far too long.

So obviously, the only way to get gold without losing your sanity doing menial, tedious, and even physical (in the case of panning) tasks, you must buy gold directly.

This would be fine if you could just use gold to buy stuff from the trading post directly. But no, you need trade tokens. You win trade tokens by playing games or by converting gold to tokens. 97 gold for 1 token...when stuff costs upwards of 300 tokens...are you people out of your cotton pickin' minds?!

So you go to play games for tokens, but this has 2 problems. 1) All the games are terrible. I'll review each one individually later, but suffice to none of them are worth spending money on. 2) The token payout rate is abysmal. I got like 16 total from playing all games once. Most games don't even reward tokens.

So the only way to get the trading post rewards without draining your sanity is draining your wallet. 97 gold for 1 token...I'm horrible at math, but about what does this come out to just buying gold? The 2000 coin plus items would cost well over 50 to buy that way.

This is beyond stupid. Let me give a brief review of each game individually.

Shooting gallery: A typical Midway style game, in which you must have super human reflexes in order to get and maintain a high multiplier. Unfair for the average user, though not AS horrible as The Midway. 8 tokens for such a high score is sickening.

Showdown: This game is relatively fair, but the cost is a bit high, always requires another person, and doesn't give tokens.

Stagecoach racing: This game was decent, but the entry fee is too high and requires SEVERAL other people. EDIT: I just tried on my alt and came in 2nd place and recieved 14 tokens. Not sure what first place prize is. There is a bonus payout for setting the fastest time for that day, but that is near impossible for the average user not skilled at racing games.

5 finger fillet: Absolutely pathetic and mind numbing but with no room for error no token payout.

Blackjack: Nothing new here, same as casino, and no token payout.

Liar's Dice: Ok, this game is far too complicated to even figure out. For the average user not interested in these types of games, it's absolutely mind boggling. I couldn't even read through the rules, my mind just glazed over in the same fashion it did when trying to figure out Craps at the casino (craps is much easier though).  This game has the highest payout, but only after winning a 5 person game...and even then it's only for 16 tokens...16...when things can cost 2400.

So let's move on to the rewards themself, shall we? They are actually amazing. Lost of nice looking clothes for women never done before, like the duster jackets that I'd instantly purchase in the mall. However, they aren't worth the $50.00+ I'd need to spend in order to convert gold to trade tokens.

The ranch house is also incredible, but no one beyond hackers and the overly affulent will be able to obtain it. At least the casino penthouse was fair.

Finally, before my list of suggested improvements, my final complaint lies within the space itself. Forcing us to only wear old west clothes in the same vein as Pottermore was a bad idea. That's one of the main reasons everyone hates that place. Now I'm not saying the clothes are horrible, in fact I love them, but the fact that we can't wear our own hairstyles or glasses severely ruins the enjoyment.

Ok, so onto my list of suggestions:

-Higher payouts for panning and mining, and make them in units of 5. Say 25 gold per panning session and 50 per mining session

-Lower the cost and increase the payouts of all the games, mainly the trade tokens. Again, make the trade token payouts in multiples of 5, like 25, 50, ect.

-Make a single player version of showdown and stagecoach racing against CPU opponents

-Make a pickaxe a permanent item instead of consumables

-Have the option to buy trade tokens directly in fairly priced bundles and/or change the conversion rate of gold to trade tokens 1 gold=1 token.

 

-Create new ways to earn trade tokens directly


-If you simply CANNOT allow people to gift themselves, then make a active "gifting post" for apartments and allow users to gift themselves. Make it have the same items as the trading post, but use seperate gifting tokens, thereby creating a loophole in the reason you "couldn't" add self gifting to the trading post.

-Allow us to wear our own glasses and hairstyles, and change the bandanas to headphone slots.

This space has a LOT of potential if these suggestions are implemented. However, in it's present state, I refuse to even spend a dime outside of the clothing items I purchased from the store, and I do not wish to lose what little is left of my sanity panning for gold.

I know Home is currently in a very uncertain state, especially with the userbase leaving for various MMOs and PS4. We are also currently acitivity deprived in Home, this is the first new thing in months.

However, this place is such an utter drain of time, money and sanity, that I'm going to say this. If this is the kind of stuff that will be keeping PS Home alive from now on...just let it die. Nothing but content updates each week is not the way to keep it alive, but neither is a time/money/sanity waster like this. I thought Home Tycoon, peakvox ninja, and HGL were bad. Well they actually look like fun and worthwhile investments compared to the Old Waste. As of right now, I'm never returning to this space until some changes for the better are implemented, except for testing and clarification purposes.

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Nov 20, 2013

A bit harsh, but I agree with a lot of the criticisms and the suggestions.

Btw, you can exit "Western Frontier" and wear whatever you want, you only need the outfits to play the games. You can wear what you like in the Saloon and still play the games there. But on that note, once you "exit" Western Frontier, there needs to be option to rejoin.

This is all moot of course as Home is inaccessible right now unless you just like hanging out in the navigator.

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Nov 20, 2013

I didnt expect much because its made by digital leisure. 

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theSinisterMrX wrote:

A bit harsh, but I agree with a lot of the criticisms and the suggestions.

Btw, you can exit "Western Frontier" and wear whatever you want, you only need the outfits to play the games. You can wear what you like in the Saloon and still play the games there. But on that note, once you "exit" Western Frontier, there needs to be option to rejoin.

This is all moot of course as Home is inaccessible right now unless you just like hanging out in the navigator.


You got that right.  I have been getting error 931 repeatedly.

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Nov 20, 2013

I actually like the space yeah it could be a tweek or two here and there but its not a waste. You have to remember they are doing this with a memory limit. I am quite sure if they had unlimited memory things would be different.  I like the games and maybe they are a tad bit high but we should support. Right now with the uncertainty home going for we have to take one for the team. just my opinion

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The memory limit has nothing to do with the fact that the token payout rates are microscopic while the gold required is substtantial, and PS Home's uncertain future is even more of a reason for devs to not drive people away with outrageous prices, tedious chores, and overall ludicrous demands for rewards.

 

It would seriously alleviate a lot of problems if they just did away with the stupid hurdles just to get trade tokens and let people buy trade tokens directly, as well as gift themselves. 

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Nov 20, 2013
I'm having issues with rewards, when I should get one I don't receive it and if I leave and re-enter the space the notice shows up again. I have had to sign out and restart home to get them. And I have had a friend not see me in trading posts when we are both there. The trade rate for coins is ridiculous, I want a buffalo but it would cost $50 in gold. Not happy that gold gets so devalued in trade.
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theSinisterMrX wrote:

A bit harsh, but I agree with a lot of the criticisms and the suggestions.

Btw, you can exit "Western Frontier" and wear whatever you want, you only need the outfits to play the games. You can wear what you like in the Saloon and still play the games there. But on that note, once you "exit" Western Frontier, there needs to be option to rejoin.

This is all moot of course as Home is inaccessible right now unless you just like hanging out in the navigator.


um u can rejoin the western frontier just by waving lol

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