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Re: Welcome Granzella and Juggernaut Stores!

Nov 15, 2012

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LiLBlueEyes wrote:

asfghjklEU wrote:

LiLBlueEyes wrote:

Speaking of Granzella, those skates are horrible for $3.50, bad animation, no extra emotes,  and whats with Granzella treating USA like a red headed step child and not releasing stuff here? They better learn about the all mighty American Home dollar or they might go the way of  Irem.


That mighty dollar is pretty weak in value though. Probably need to sell x2 the amount to get the same revenue from other regions. Could be why GZ isn't really focused in releasing. But I still think the real hold up is occuring at SCEA rather than GZ.


Could be, but have you ever been to UK Home? 80% of the population is dressed like a noob, where as in the USA 70% of the people have some sort of store bought clothes.  


Unless you have the sales data from Sony, that's only your speculation. Time difference and life style may have something to do with it also. You can't see people's inventory either, so there's no way of proving they're just noobies.


Wewt, I'm on a roll with quoting my own counterpoints today! I had to slightly alter and add some things from my original post.

 

I have brought this up time and time again in countless topics. Aside from Japan, Granzella will sell the BEST in NA. All it takes is a simple venture into the public EU and Asia servers. (AND YES I AM AWARE OF THE TIME DIFFERENCE, AND HAVE VISITED AT VARIOUS TIMES OF THE DAY AND NIGHT, AND DURING PEAK HOURS OF EU/ASIA TIMES.)

 

Every single time I have visited EU and Asia, I have seen next to no one in Granzella clothing. There were a few sparse handfuls in EU, mostly sporting Granzella hair and swimsuits, but NONE in Asia. I am also aware of different instances, and I have been in multiple instances in EU with the same results. 

Visiting NA however, you can see tons of people with samurai/ninja outfits, on the roof at south island, and digging for fossils with the legendary tools. I can't even begin to get started on how absolutely stupid it is to release ANYTHING in Asia first. For the uninformed (especially Sony, apparently) consoles were, (until sometime in October?) banned in China, and Korea has an internet curfew! There are about 20 people on total on a good day, and most likely they won't have purchased items! How could anyone with concious thought think it's a good idea to release items in Asia first?

There are also people like me who will buy absolutely EVERYTHING Granzella, except for tawdry clothes and things that aren't my style.

 

*end quote* To date, I alone have spent  approximately $286 dollars on Granzella since their arrival in NA last year. Based on physical observation of people in home, and COMMON SENSE, regardless of whether or not I can see their inventories (why could someone purchase Granzella items, at the prices they are, and then go around wearin default clothing?) I can safely say that I alone have produced more revenue for Granzella then they ever have and ever will make in Asia.

 

And myself combined with the many other "mega spenders" and consumers of Granzella in NA, have most certainly produced more revanue for GZ in NA then in Europe, for the same factors I statted above (observation and common sense)

 

There is somehting very sick and twisted going on with Granzella and EU Home. This has first become apparent to me back when EU got the free Granzella burger uniforms, while not even Japan did. They have them now, but it's been at least 3 months.

 

Yesterday it has become crystal clear however. EU received exclusive versions of the swimsuits, while Japan did not. If ANYONE thinks Granzella sells better in EU then JAPAN, please have a brain examination as your prefrontal cortex is obviously malfuntioning. There is something horribly wrong going on for EU to be reciving Granzella exclusives before Japan, let alone NA.


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Re: Welcome Granzella and Juggernaut Stores!

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LiLBlueEyes wrote:

Tarazuma wrote:

asfghjklEU wrote:

LiLBlueEyes wrote:

asfghjklEU wrote:

LiLBlueEyes wrote:

Speaking of Granzella, those skates are horrible for $3.50, bad animation, no extra emotes,  and whats with Granzella treating USA like a red headed step child and not releasing stuff here? They better learn about the all mighty American Home dollar or they might go the way of  Irem.


That mighty dollar is pretty weak in value though. Probably need to sell x2 the amount to get the same revenue from other regions. Could be why GZ isn't really focused in releasing. But I still think the real hold up is occuring at SCEA rather than GZ.


Could be, but have you ever been to UK Home? 80% of the population is dressed like a noob, where as in the USA 70% of the people have some sort of store bought clothes.  


Unless you have the sales data from Sony, that's only your speculation. Time difference and life style may have something to do with it also. You can't see people's inventory either, so there's no way of proving they're just noobies.


Wewt, I'm on a roll with quoting my own counterpoints today! I had to slightly alter and add some things from my original post.

 

I have brought this up time and time again in countless topics. Aside from Japan, Granzella will sell the BEST in NA. All it takes is a simple venture into the public EU and Asia servers. (AND YES I AM AWARE OF THE TIME DIFFERENCE, AND HAVE VISITED AT VARIOUS TIMES OF THE DAY AND NIGHT, AND DURING PEAK HOURS OF EU/ASIA TIMES.)

 

Every single time I have visited EU and Asia, I have seen next to no one in Granzella clothing. There were a few sparse handfuls in EU, mostly sporting Granzella hair and swimsuits, but NONE in Asia. I am also aware of different instances, and I have been in multiple instances in EU with the same results. 

Visiting NA however, you can see tons of people with samurai/ninja outfits, on the roof at south island, and digging for fossils with the legendary tools. I can't even begin to get started on how absolutely stupid it is to release ANYTHING in Asia first. For the uninformed (especially Sony, apparently) consoles were, (until sometime in October?) banned in China, and Korea has an internet curfew! There are about 20 people on total on a good day, and most likely they won't have purchased items! How could anyone with concious thought think it's a good idea to release items in Asia first?

There are also people like me who will buy absolutely EVERYTHING Granzella, except for tawdry clothes and things that aren't my style.

 

*end quote* To date, I alone have spent  approximately $286 dollars on Granzella since their arrival in NA last year. Based on physical observation of people in home, and COMMON SENSE, regardless of whether or not I can see their inventories (why could someone purchase Granzella items, at the prices they are, and then go around wearin default clothing?) I can safely say that I alone have produced more revenue for Granzella then they ever have and ever will make in Asia.

 

And myself combined with the many other "mega spenders" and consumers of Granzella in NA, have most certainly produced more revanue for GZ in NA then in Europe, for the same factors I statted above (observation and common sense)

 

There is somehting very sick and twisted going on with Granzella and EU Home. This has first become apparent to me back when EU got the free Granzella burger uniforms, while not even Japan did. They have them now, but it's been at least 3 months.

 

Yesterday it has become crystal clear however. EU received exclusive versions of the swimsuits, while Japan did not. If ANYONE thinks Granzella sells better in EU then JAPAN, please have a brain examination as your prefrontal cortex is obviously malfuntioning. There is something horribly wrong going on for EU to be reciving Granzella exclusives before Japan, let alone NA.


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No source means useless words. Get some concrete data or quote from a developer that backs up you statements. Until then what I'm saying here is valid as yours.

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It really isn't. I don't need a quote or "concrete" data for things that can simply be observed. I don't just mean a simple look around either, even though that alone would suffice for something like this.

I have conducted various tests, with others help, involving time of day (taking time zones into consideration), day of the week (ditto), multiple instances, and even asking people what they buy, and all observation tests have produced the same results.

However, if I knew how to go about requesting this data I would, but it would involve a collaboration between Granzella, SCEA, SCEE and SCEAsia. I don't think they would be willing to come together just to produce a sales comparison for one company.

So in this case, I think my tests were sufficient enough to prove my point. If I saw tons of people wearing GZ clothes and using GZ items in EU, then I wouldn't be so adamant about this particular point.

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Re: Welcome Granzella and Juggernaut Stores!

Nov 15, 2012

Tarazuma wrote:

It really isn't. I don't need a quote or "concrete" data for things that can simply be observed. I don't just mean a simple look around either, even though that alone would suffice for something like this.

I have conducted various tests, with others help, involving time of day, day of the week, multiple instances, and even asking people what they buy, and all observation tests have produced the same results.

However, if I knew how to go about requesting this data I would, but it would involve a collaboration between Granzella, SCEA, SCEE and SCEAsia. I don't think they would be willing to come together just to produce a sales comparison for one company.

So in this case, I think my tests were sufficient enough to prove my point. If I saw tons of people wearing GZ clothes and using GZ items in EU, then I wouldn't be so adamant about this particular point.


Then present your data then. Depending on how vaild your test is, you can prove your point. You went with the hard work of gathering it, why not present it? Depending on how useful that data can be, it can be used against those management or developers, or it could be useless junk.

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Well I'll be honest, my data currently only exists on pen and paper. It is not formal or professional by any means. It mostly consists of times I visited, and whether or not people had GZ clothing or items during different times, days and instances, along with a tally of how many people I asked bought GZ content or not, and if they did, whether it was it a lot or only a few items.

Considering the format home is in, it's very difficult to record any coherent data without a video capture card, which I don't own or know how to use.

Even then, I don't think Granzella or SCE-E/A/Asia would take the time to watch those videos or read my observations if I transcribed everything to the computer. So I suppose my data IS useless in regards to getting devs to change, unless I could get the attention of GZ and the SCE regions.

But in that case, if I somehow managed to get the attention of them enough to care, they could simply just do the sales comparisons.

My real point in talking about my observations is to simply confirm what many people have been saying all along, and to counteract the people trying to state that there's some kind of legitimate business decision of Granzella items being released in EU before NA and in some cases Japan.

In my long email with Granzella from a while ago, they stated they are not prioritizing EU over NA, but that NA releases have "seen some delays".

This makes it easy to point the finger at SCEA, but when EU starts getting Granzella content before JAPAN, you know there's something much different, and much more sinister/stupid happening behind the scenes.

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Re: Welcome Granzella and Juggernaut Stores!

Nov 15, 2012

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They took out the Mass Media store, which sucks, now you have to go to a ticket booth.....Booooooooooooooo!


They should just make a third floor in the Mall. Then we can add the stores again. That should make it easier.

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Nov 15, 2012

It's about time!! I love Granzella and Juggernaut! Smiley Happy

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I hope that we get the cool Granzella store in the Mall like at EU.

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I hope that we get the cool Granzella store in the Mall like at EU.


Thats not a bad idea. We can take out the Diesel or Mass Media Stores. Like replace Diesel with Granzella and maybe Billabong with Juggernaut.

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