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Re: WARNING: Pottermore Spaces cripple chat v2

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Give me a break, Nitrate. Anyone smart enough to ferret out Sony's financial records is smart enough to understand why adults shouldn't be able to PM 13 year olds. And you've been around here long enough to know about the security vulnerability with voice chat.

 

I suppose you'll tell me to go provide links for things now. Google it yourself. Sony won't be releasing any more financials for a couple of weeks.

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Give me a break, Nitrate. Anyone smart enough to ferret out Sony's financial records is smart enough to understand why adults shouldn't be able to PM 13 year olds. And you've been around here long enough to know about the security vulnerability with voice chat.


Then by that logic all private, group, and club chat in Home should be abolished - as Home (NA at least) has always allowed 13 year olds... It's not like the Pottermore spaces have a special lower age limit to allow for younger kids.   But you know that as well - all you do is offer excuse after excuse, but not only does your reasoning fail to support your theory, but you do not even have anything official to back it up.

 

Not only that, but what does any of this have to do with not being able to send private, group, or club chat to anyone not in Pottermore spaces when you are in them?  Or not notifying you that your message can not be sent or received?   How is this some how making Pottersmore "kid friendly" - which again isn't even an official explanation.  It's just one you and Conrad and a few other apologists have speculated on to make excuses for what is quite clearly an issue that effects a great deal of people that use Home to socialize with friends spread out all over Home.

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Actually, I'm sure that the decision to limit chat came from the people behind Harry Potter. It's to protect their interest, investment and fanbase. But even with that, it is still up to the parent or guardian to look after their own children, whether or not anyone else is looking after each other.

 

I have no difficulty stopping my swearing when entering a school zone or children's playground.


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Private, group and club chat should have been disabled when the security flaw was found, which happens to be about the same time I stopped using a microphone in Home. I call disabling it in one space a step in the right direction.

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HearItWow wrote:

Private, group and club chat should have been disabled when the security flaw was found, which happens to be about the same time I stopped using a microphone in Home. I call disabling it in one space a step in the right direction.


 

 

Security flaw? What did I miss?

 

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HearItWow wrote:

Private, group and club chat should have been disabled when the security flaw was found, which happens to be about the same time I stopped using a microphone in Home. I call disabling it in one space a step in the right direction.


 

 

Security flaw? What did I miss?

 


I was wondering when I read that too. Get him to tell! Smiley Happy

 

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:^/ Bear in mind that the Pottermore spaces on Home are geared as much to appeal to existing Pottermore users who are new to Home as to existing Home denizens who are new to Pottermore.

 

Newcomers to Home will not feel chafed at the omission of Club Chat and PM's which are features they've never experienced here yet. Also, they'll be able to discover these features when they're ready to visit other Home spaces.

 

Meanwhile, there are plenty of ways that hidden communication can help seasoned Home troublemakers harrass the newcomers from Pottermore, so disabling such features is an effective strategy to reduce Home's less savory influences. The same is true for the clothing allowed in the space.

 

 

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HearItWow wrote:

Private, group and club chat should have been disabled when the security flaw was found, which happens to be about the same time I stopped using a microphone in Home. I call disabling it in one space a step in the right direction.


 

 

Security flaw? What did I miss?

 


I'm not sure if this is what is being referred to but a while back there was a discussion on the forum regarding a problem with group chat. Basically, a troublemaker would invite you to a group chat. Once you were in, they could determine your IP address and then launch a denial of service attack on you. I don't know how accurate that information is though so maybe someone with more knowledge about this subject could chime in.

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Ren_Echo wrote:

Lissa_Fett wrote:

 


HearItWow wrote:

Private, group and club chat should have been disabled when the security flaw was found, which happens to be about the same time I stopped using a microphone in Home. I call disabling it in one space a step in the right direction.


 

 

Security flaw? What did I miss?

 


I'm not sure if this is what is being referred to but a while back there was a discussion on the forum regarding a problem with group chat. Basically, a troublemaker would invite you to a group chat. Once you were in, they could determine your IP address and then launch a denial of service attack on you. I don't know how accurate that information is though so maybe someone with more knowledge about this subject could chime in.


It is called D.D.O.S..

 

Distributed Denial Of Service attack.

 

First the IP address of the machine (or user with Playstation Home) is determined.


  Generally as is right now, you have to be IN a Group Chat with any person who attempts DDOS.

 

Using a Jailbroken PS3 with the proper programs and knowledge allows a person to do DDOS in Group OR Club chats within Home.

Also when in private personal spaces where your IP can easily be picked up by those using the proper software.  It seems only in LOCAL in Public spaces has this serious security issue been stopped.  Although some claim they can still do it through LOCAL in public, but that they don't know who they are booting off of Home and PSN.

 

 DDOS is also a Federal offense.

 

For those that do practice it, keep your fingers crossed that you are not being tracked.

 

If you are unable to sign into PSN or suddenly get booted off of Home after joining a Group Chat where you don't know everyone in the group, then I suggest that you unplug your modem for at least 1 minute.  Your modem, not your router.  This should reset your IP address and allow you back onto PSN.  If you suspect a DDOS user in a group, take your cell phone camera and take a Screen snapshot of those users in that Group.  You can also PM the HomeForumMods here about suspected DDOS users within Home.  They will appreciate the picture.  Never hurts to have evidence.

 

 Reseting your IP address by unpluging your modem applies to most people (most have a Dynamic IP address).  If you use a Static IP adress (should you really be playing Home while at work?), then you will have to call your ISP (or your companies ISP) and ask them to change your IP address.  Static IP address usually cost more, business uses them for increased reliabilty and speed at the sacrifice of security (where DDOS is an issue).  I suggest that if you run your own business, don't play Home from that office.

 

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