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May 16 2016
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"The Order:1886" compared to "Uncharted 4"

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Okay, I just wrapped up the latest Uncharted game and it was amazing. It certainly deserves all of the critical and fan love it's receiving. With that being said however, how in the heck are some of these same critics falling all over themselves with their praise of "Uncharted 4," while also having been so harsh on "The Order: 1886?" Many of the chief complaints that critics had of "The Order:1886" are being praised in "Uncharted 4." 

Two great examples of negative critiques for "The Order: 1886" that are positive critiques for "Uncharted 4" are, use of cut-scenes and total length of game. Time and time again I read the "The Order's" use of cut-scenes was gratuitous and the sheer amount of them inhibited the enjoyment of the game. I would strongly disagree with that criticism, but I can certainly respect it. Conversely, the use of cut-scenes in "Uncharted 4" is lauded nonstop as a device that really brings out the motivation and feeling of the characters. So in one game, it's over-the-top and in the other it's pitch-perfect?

The short length of "The Order's" campaign has been lambasted over and over. Again, a criticism I strongly disagree with, but again, I can respect it. Why then, isn't there the same outcry regarding "Uncharted 4's" short campaign? To be fair, "Uncharted 4's" length is a couple of hours longer, but it certainly isn't at the top-end of campaign style games. If I recall correctly, it took approximately twelve hours to beat "The Order:1886," and approximately fourteen hours to beat "Uncharted 4."

And just as an aside, I've read some "Uncharted 4" reviews that claimed it has supplanted "The Order" as the best looking game on the PS4, and I have to disagree whole-heartily. Yes, "Uncharted 4" is a graphical masterpiece for the PS4, but it is not better than "The Order." What sets "The Order" a notch above is the graphical brilliance within actual gameplay, not just during the cut-scenes. "Uncharted 4's" cut-scenes are on par with "The Order's," but it loses something when it switches into gameplay. In "The Order" there are no differences between cut-scenes and gameplay. Heck, I remember times playing "The Order" that I didn't even realize the game had switched from a cut-scene into gameplay. I remember looking at the screen waiting for something to happen before finally realizing, oh wait, It's time for me to take control. This is definitely not the case with "Uncharted 4." Like in almost every campaign style game, you know exactly when a cut-scene is over and when to start playing. Also, while in gameplay, it appears that "Uncharted 4" loses some of its shine.

I am not writing this post as a criticism of "Uncharted 4," because as I stated in my opening paragraph, it really is amazing, but more as a criticism of critics themselves. The apparent ease at which one game is negatively critiqued and then that same critique is used as praise for another game in confounding. I really wish that some of the critics that gave "Uncharted 4" great scores and "The Order: 1886" poor ones, would now go back with the same critical lenses they used for the former and use them for the latter, Something tells me if they did that, then they would see "The Order: 1886" in a whole different light.

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I was very pleased to read your article! After the 4.50 update i loaded some old games... And The Order was a hidden gem! After the harsh critiques it received (back in 2015!!!) I must admit, i hardly played it back then... But now...what a surprise! And YES, Uncharted 4 IS brilliant! But what about The order? Graphics 2 years old and still photorealistic! Gameplay exactly the same on both games! There aren't things in Uncharted that you cannot do in The Order... And i have to point out that The order uses climbing, overcoming obstacles etc in a better way. In Uncharted for example climbing plays a major role, but with the false impression that it will be challenging and possibly fatal, meaning more fun for the gamer...But that is not true! Pulling the left stick up and hitting x again and again is not fun...(ok i am and 33yo old school gamer) On the other hand, in The order, you know you won't die when you jump from one roof to the other...it's just a part of progression, not a boring key gameplay element.... And the shooting, i find the whole feeling more realistic... but that is subjective...
Anyway, Uncharted is in my heart, but The Order really deserves another review...
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You are putting to much weight on reviews. Also you have the console wars to think about and false/fake reviews. I watch video and read reviews, just to get a general feel for what to look for. At the end of the day its not the review i go by its what I can see and judge myself. People and Critics can rave all they want but I make my own choices. I make them for myself based on what I like. The Order 1886 was a enjoyable game, but I thought it was very short also.Uncharted 4 I loved and felt it was so much more. In the end its only how I feel about them.


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The Order is pretty minimalistic in terms of it's content. But so is the recent Resident Evil 7 which is amazing and critics once again fell over themselves for a short game there.

Truth is The Order gets a very unfair and bad reputation for absolutely no reason other than people just like to rag on something. Even I like to at times which is what I'm going to do now and bring it back on topic.

Uncharted 4. The worst Uncharted game of the lot. You can see the writing is heavily influenced by Neil Druckmann who penned such bad scripts such as The Last of Us. I don't like this whole "Everything has gone to **bleep**" writing style. and while the whole thing of me not liking TLOU is subjective and people certainly disagree with me more than agree, it certainly doesn't fit the Uncharted universe. It's the game that has most disappointed me so far on PS4 and desperately needs a sequel to fix this mess they made. Something else that frustrates me is how Uncharted used to be sparringly using it's dialogue in the first three Uncharted games you had very brief moments of cutscenes or talking backed up by all out action. You spend far too much time walking in Uncharted 4 and it just doesn't feel like an Uncharted game. It feels like someone's heart was so set on making TLOU 2 that they forgot the characters and soul of Uncharted itself. Uncharted 5 is needed and a new writer is needed, not someone who is proven to be one dimensional.

Where were the wise cracks? Where was the humor? where was Uncharted? Do I actually want Uncharted 5 or am I still actually waiting for Uncharted 4? In short I really do feel like The Order is a vastly superior game to Uncharted 4 overall, one area it's worse in is the gameplay area, but the gameplay in Uncharted 4 is so broken up by poor pacing and massive scenes of dialogue that it doesn't even matter.



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