
12-20-2012 03:59 PM - edited 12-20-2012 06:28 PM
mochuuu wrote:
Dua1-Blade- wrote:
jpbslayer wrote:
BRIT-KO wrote:
PICK34 wrote:Apparently they're using it for feedback for the plus staff according to Morgan on the ps blog. I too voted for nothing.
Yea, I had assumed that was the point of it, but like someone above (Possible JERM) said I'd like to see that poll integrated into these Forums too, like there was a month or so ago, but I still like the idea that they're listening, lets see if they take notice huh, Plus started out very good indeed, it has been somewhat lackluster lately though.
because there asking-- does not mean there listening
The way these companies work, its probably a completely different department that is asking than the one that actually picks the games.
Results probably go no where.
The idea that we're not using the polls to actually listen for what people like is completely false, I'm afraid. The results get delivered to the entire team (yes we're all one team that works together to iron out the deals with publishers and developers to get games in Plus) and we review them extensively, along with several other pieces of data.
There are many factors that influence what games are chosen, and we're not able to simply pick any game we like and put it in Plus; but polls like the ones being discussed here are very powerful for us to get a picture of what a particualr section of the PSN community thinks.
The Community Management team isn't here to be fluff, and I get that the notion of change can be hard to see in short amounts of time. But we've always got your feedback top of mind and work incredibly hard to get your feedback to the teams =)
I've responded in the Other Thread, the one you created, so i won't reiterate the same points here. Safe to say we/I know you & the rest of the team can't just pick any old game out for Plus & make it happen, we know & actually appreciate that, we also know you all work hard at what you do, but more imnput needs to made here.
Change in the short term takes time, correct, what about change in the longer term, PS Plus was launched in June of 2010, we're nearly into 2013 now.
12-20-2012 07:33 PM
BRIT-KO wrote:
Change in the short term takes time, correct, what about change in the longer term, PS Plus was launched in June of 2010, we're nearly into 2013 now.
Are you saying Plus hasn't changed since June 2010? Just curious ; )
12-20-2012 09:21 PM
12-23-2012 12:09 PM
12-29-2012 06:36 PM
bump ... noticed a new poll on what genera PS+ subscribers like ...
12-31-2012 07:49 PM
i think "the nothing for me vote thing" really doesnt help gather any information to better things ,how so if that is case.. You choose nothing how does that help. All it leads to is exploit to hate on the ps brand and vote the psn store down since it has been on the store the psn store vote( ratings) have been down.
They need to go back to old format of psn + the 1st one. the instant game collection is nothing but a headache, free games is not what ps+ is and what it should be about. If they are going that direction the usa psn blog i going fall behind every other single psn blog. That is not way cris and jeff ran the ps blog.That is not standard they set forth for it.. Jeff siad the blog was good hands. hell i think he spoke to soon.
sid,morgan, ray and the new guys need to to tighten up, i have never seen so many errors on games sales in my 5-6 yrs of us psn blog. The lack of feed back and etc is normal to me. its alwys been that way. but thing that gets me the most is all the errors.
Your giving folk ammo to complain . Go look athe 1st first few in past months post they are aiming for mistake.
where are the ps mini.?? at least 1 per month to be sold
where are ps one classic that should be coverted to play on ps vita and psp? at least 1 per to be sold
where is the free avi, 1 per mth to ps plus members
where is the free wall paper a month? at least 1 per month
Did you guy change this for a free game each month in stead.? I understand you introduce instant game collection but the ramfication of that were not clear to the fans. Ps+ is about discounts to the gamer, to save money.. A free game is agood thing but at same i the old way of ps+ was better.
i dont know what else to say but somethings need to change. becuase eu blog has more dev in eu area.. WHich mean they will be getting more deals than america will get every week. The old format worked best becuase hey it spreaded everything out into diffrent things to give/buy.. one thing didnt hurt everything.It also brought sale in more areas.
I understand eu and usa and jpn canada ,brazil psn stores are diffrent, so why change the 1st way on how it was formatted it to brillance? It was excuted within very good reasons to broaden sales in all areas of psn not just games. THat my opinion on the matter
12-31-2012 09:53 PM
mcbuttz78 wrote:
i think "the nothing for me vote thing" really doesnt help gather any information to better things ,how so if that is case.. You choose nothing how does that help. All it leads to is exploit to hate on the ps brand and vote the psn store down since it has been on the store the psn store vote( ratings) have been down.
They need to go back to old format of psn + the 1st one. the instant game collection is nothing but a headache, free games is not what ps+ is and what it should be about. If they are going that direction the usa psn blog i going fall behind every other single psn blog. That is not way cris and jeff ran the ps blog.That is not standard they set forth for it.. Jeff siad the blog was good hands. hell i think he spoke to soon.
sid,morgan, ray and the new guys need to to tighten up, i have never seen so many errors on games sales in my 5-6 yrs of us psn blog. The lack of feed back and etc is normal to me. its alwys been that way. but thing that gets me the most is all the errors.
Your giving folk ammo to complain . Go look athe 1st first few in past months post they are aiming for mistake.
where are the ps mini.?? at least 1 per month to be sold
where are ps one classic that should be coverted to play on ps vita and psp? at least 1 per to be sold
where is the free avi, 1 per mth to ps plus members
where is the free wall paper a month? at least 1 per month
Did you guy change this for a free game each month in stead.? I understand you introduce instant game collection but the ramfication of that were not clear to the fans. Ps+ is about discounts to the gamer, to save money.. A free game is agood thing but at same i the old way of ps+ was better.
i dont know what else to say but somethings need to change. becuase eu blog has more dev in eu area.. WHich mean they will be getting more deals than america will get every week. The old format worked best becuase hey it spreaded everything out into diffrent things to give/buy.. one thing didnt hurt everything.It also brought sale in more areas.
I understand eu and usa and jpn canada ,brazil psn stores are diffrent, so why change the 1st way on how it was formatted it to brillance? It was excuted within very good reasons to broaden sales in all areas of psn not just games. THat my opinion on the matter
Sony sent out a survey to certain PS+ members a year ago, and the feedback was that customers wanted PS3 & PSN games, not PSminis or PS1 games. I think few people are disappointed that the program has changed, and Sony has stated that subscription rates have skyrocketed since they made fundemental changes last June...
01-01-2013 03:51 AM
mcbuttz78 wrote:i think "the nothing for me vote thing" really doesnt help gather any information to better things ,how so if that is case.. You choose nothing how does that help.
where are the ps mini.?? at least 1 per month to be sold
where are ps one classic that should be coverted to play on ps vita and psp? at least 1 per to be sold
where is the free avi, 1 per mth to ps plus members
where is the free wall paper a month? at least 1 per month
If Sony uses the data it should help to let them know what kind of offerings PS+ subscribers appreciate, and which ones should be avoided. I mentioned in another thread that in order for the poll to be more effective, Sony should only allow PS+ subscribers to vote.
re minis and PSOne titles, Logical Dolphin already said it - a previous survey indicated that most PS+ subscribers could care less about these types of games. Or at least they didn't want these types of games counting against their monthly allocation, favoring full PS3 titles and a broader PSN selection.
Sony did put FF Tactics in the Vita instant game collection. I expect PSOne and PSP titles to be offered up in the Vita instant game collection format.
01-01-2013 02:41 PM - edited 01-01-2013 03:21 PM
Logical_Dolphin wrote:
mcbuttz78 wrote:i think "the nothing for me vote thing" really doesnt help gather any information to better things ,how so if that is case.. You choose nothing how does that help. All it leads to is exploit to hate on the ps brand and vote the psn store down since it has been on the store the psn store vote( ratings) have been down.
They need to go back to old format of psn + the 1st one. the instant game collection is nothing but a headache, free games is not what ps+ is and what it should be about. If they are going that direction the usa psn blog i going fall behind every other single psn blog. That is not way cris and jeff ran the ps blog.That is not standard they set forth for it.. Jeff siad the blog was good hands. hell i think he spoke to soon.
sid,morgan, ray and the new guys need to to tighten up, i have never seen so many errors on games sales in my 5-6 yrs of us psn blog. The lack of feed back and etc is normal to me. its alwys been that way. but thing that gets me the most is all the errors.
Your giving folk ammo to complain . Go look athe 1st first few in past months post they are aiming for mistake.
where are the ps mini.?? at least 1 per month to be sold
where are ps one classic that should be coverted to play on ps vita and psp? at least 1 per to be sold
where is the free avi, 1 per mth to ps plus members
where is the free wall paper a month? at least 1 per month
Did you guy change this for a free game each month in stead.? I understand you introduce instant game collection but the ramfication of that were not clear to the fans. Ps+ is about discounts to the gamer, to save money.. A free game is agood thing but at same i the old way of ps+ was better.
i dont know what else to say but somethings need to change. becuase eu blog has more dev in eu area.. WHich mean they will be getting more deals than america will get every week. The old format worked best becuase hey it spreaded everything out into diffrent things to give/buy.. one thing didnt hurt everything.It also brought sale in more areas.
I understand eu and usa and jpn canada ,brazil psn stores are diffrent, so why change the 1st way on how it was formatted it to brillance? It was excuted within very good reasons to broaden sales in all areas of psn not just games. THat my opinion on the matter
Sony sent out a survey to certain PS+ members a year ago, and the feedback was that customers wanted PS3 & PSN games, not PSminis or PS1 games. I think few people are disappointed that the program has changed, and Sony has stated that subscription rates have skyrocketed since they made fundemental changes last June...
let me such survey becuase psn is small time devs and orginal games for fans bases to be created. Let me see such survey. becuase i have not heard of this or seen it. Psn gaming format is for the small devepler to prosper which means going from making ps mini to psn game to making a full ps3 console debut. It build devs up.
ps+ is not a free 3rd party game give away program. It s about discount on games and letting small time devs make profit with there games on psn . That includes minis oringinal psn games and the linkes. not retail games in the store being given away for free . That is not is ps+ is about.. Who ever changed the format need sit downon and be drilled on how hard the playstaion gamer has worked to get sony to listen to them onthese matters of gamer saving money. A free game help anyone all it does is start genre wars i "Of i dont like this game or etc etc.. i want this type of games".. its 70 million people man all with doffrent genre lies , who bone head idea was that , how did they figure one game is going to appeal to everyone beecause it sfree ? for the sake of sale and profit?? How so when it has neglected getting folk in wallpers section. movie section. avi section. to buy
01-01-2013 02:53 PM
jcalvert wrote:
mcbuttz78 wrote:i think "the nothing for me vote thing" really doesnt help gather any information to better things ,how so if that is case.. You choose nothing how does that help.
where are the ps mini.?? at least 1 per month to be sold
where are ps one classic that should be coverted to play on ps vita and psp? at least 1 per to be sold
where is the free avi, 1 per mth to ps plus members
where is the free wall paper a month? at least 1 per month
If Sony uses the data it should help to let them know what kind of offerings PS+ subscribers appreciate, and which ones should be avoided. I mentioned in another thread that in order for the poll to be more effective, Sony should only allow PS+ subscribers to vote.
re minis and PSOne titles, Logical Dolphin already said it - a previous survey indicated that most PS+ subscribers could care less about these types of games. Or at least they didn't want these types of games counting against their monthly allocation, favoring full PS3 titles and a broader PSN selection.
Sony did put FF Tactics in the Vita instant game collection. I expect PSOne and PSP titles to be offered up in the Vita instant game collection format.
Well i agree with your assesment , but the part i feel un easy about is dividing gamers just becuase they dont have ps+.. becuase ps+ was develop by gamers who just wanted discounts and good orginal titles which in cludes mini and ps1 titles orginal psn games on a disocunt "not free games by 3rd party". There was no ps+ to be had in those times and alot of those same guys who fought fo it dont have ps today. it doenst make then any less of playstation fan to neglect their votes in the matter.
They have been promising that for a very long time psp gaming to the format or w/e they are tlaking about. Alot are tired of hearing promises they want some action. Action gets things done not bold promises. A survey dont make it right for all 70 million playstaioners.