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Personally, Id have it sitting like its primarily designed to do...I know its also advertised more "styleishly" in a verticle position, but since it is not a solid-state HDD, id play it safe, seeing as you already have had problems in the past.


yeah and it has already been proven time and time again they run cooler laying flat,like i said heat will rise straight upto the heatsinks instead of rising to the side of them causing more heat to the BGA assembly..

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I have 2 Ps3's. An old fat one, and the new white one. Both I have lying down and I have never had problems with either. My fat one is going on 5 years I believe. I just make sure there is proper ventelation around the entire console.

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I think it's better to keep it laying flat. Smiley Happy

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CASHviLLe_615 wrote:

i just got my ps3 back from sony 0g, im wondering since i brought out the cabinet and set it next to my tv should it be standing up or laying down?  im trying to stay ylod free till the  ps4 comes out .. lollll what do you guys recommand?


CASHviLLe:   There’s a rumor that it was all the warnings about thermal paste and ylod that made Linda Blair do that head-twisting thing… 

A lot of the warnings are the “fat” of years of reactions to all sorts of personal disasters with homemade fix-its and our friends (not us) abusing their units.

 Before you pick your best position (probably horizontally, in your case) here is the long and “skinny” about Paste, Heat, Sony-repairs, and LYOD:

 

Smiley IndifferentThe thermal paste will not slide away or be deteriorated by what position your unit sits in.  Sony was famous for sloshing unnecessarily excess paste in these units (sparing amounts is all that’s needed), but the portion of the paste that does the work is clamped so well between two ‘heat-transfer’ plates that, as long as Sony did its repair correctly, that paste ain’t going anywhere.  So don’t let us clog your mind with “paste” tactics (unless you plan to open the console yourself and go digging, paste is out of your control).

 

Smiley LOLIf you ever HAVE by chance disassembled one of these babies at home, you’ll find that, picturing the unit horizontally in your mind, the main sections are decked out like a stack of hot pancakes. 

The circuit chip board is the flapjack that starts to loosen up its chips and get misaligned when it stays TOO hot over time. 

The heat sink is horizontally laying UNDER the circuit board like another spread-out flapjack---it’s trying to “vampire-suck” the heat off the circuit board as fast as the heat builds up (it tries to use the paste and some clever copper ductwork to do it).

Then you have a fan squashed UNDER (and squeezed up the middle of) the heat sink. The fan’s NOT trying to cool the circuit board, and it’s not blowing ON the circuits---it’s mostly trying to blow the heat off the heatsink!  Its blades are shaped to SCATTER OUT the hot air sideways.  Think of a flapjack spinning and scattering syrup and butter out of every vent hole it can find on the PS3. Smiley Tongue

Actually the real syrup and butter in the console are the bluray drive, bluetooth modules and power box, cuz they are just topped on the roof of the circuitboard like the whipped cream and fruit at iHOP.

 

So, fan under the heatsink,

Heatsink under LYOD-endangered circuit board (called motherboard),

Motherboard under a topping of powerpack/cd-drive/touch-board and cables

Which is goofy, because ( the guys are right) heat RISES, so the heat sink and fan would be helped by physics if they were pancaked on TOP the circuitboard instead of under it…but err, okay, Sony. 

But when you realize the fan is twirling air outward like a spinning lasso (not like the fan in your living room that pushes air towards you face-on),  it makes sense that horizontal position (like  those thermometer tests found) helps the fan scatter heat off the heatsink fins more evenly than a vertical position.  

 

Smiley SadSony's repairs of YLOD is what has given many of us owners big controversy. 

The heat is what made the circuitboard chips loosen up their connections, then just the slightest warp or pull of gravity caused a gap to form in a vital connection (Bam…YLOD). 

Sony MAY have ‘fixed’ it by positioning the circuitboard on a special PERFECTLY HORIZONTAL rack, and heating it up again (specialist-controlled heat, this time), until hopefully that mystery chip connection loosens, seeks its level like water, and closes back the gap. Even when it works, you could argue that's not a real FIX.  It’s just a MacGuyver (remember him?)… something that’s meant to hold your device together for now, and buy time for you to do the real fix later.  It’s only going to take some heat and softening again, perhaps one chip sagging under gravity, to create another gap and RE-“YLOD”.  Since Sony knew how important it was to have gravity acting HORIZONTALLY on the circuitboard during their, err, hot MacGuyver repair,… it’s a good bet that gravity can be an enemy if you let it pull on those connections when they’re clinging in the VERTICAL off the circuitboard when they start softening up during hot gameplay again. 

 

They WILL soften up again…it’s just a question of how soon.  I had one, repaired from Sony, re-LYOD’ed after just three hours of play---*Bleeeeeeeeeepp!!!* came out of my mouth for 20 minutes, 1 o'clock in the morning.

Some gamers haven’t had another LYOD in 3 years when their unit was resuscitated.  (…those lucky mugs.Smiley Frustrated)

 

From what you posted, it sounds like your unit was SENT IN to Sony for a YLOD repair.  And if your unit was a YLOD brought back to life by someone (even by Sony), it needs every little help it can get. 

Try to keep the sick patient HORIZONTALLY.  It’s not a “protection” against a second YLOD.  It’s just the longshot bet with the better odds than putting all your money on vertical.

 

Good Luck, CASHviLLe!!  You can make it!


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I much prefer my PlayStation to be laying down. I have it sitting right next to my TV and it gets good ventilation the way I have it laying down. Plus, it's possible that the PS3 could fall over and sustain serious damage if it was placed vertically and it isn't located next to a wall on both sides.

I personally choose horizontal due to the safety and how natural it feels.
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Only reason I don't lay it down, is because the bottom can get pretty warm on me, and that scares me. So, I leave it standing up.

But, I give it plenty of ventilation, and it's been working great for 3 years proud now.
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itsnotozzyitsozz wrote:
Only reason I don't lay it down, is because the bottom can get pretty warm on me, and that scares me. So, I leave it standing up.

But, I give it plenty of ventilation, and it's been working great for 3 years proud now.

i always put rubber feet on them like on a computer tower and makes a huge difference..also do this for anyone when i work on their system.

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Always flat, don't want to take a chance of it getting bumped and falling over.Smiley Sad

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I have the newest model, the super slim, and I heard with those, since most of the vents are near the bottom, and back, it's better to stand them vertically. Plus flat, the disc door slides like a bat out of hell to the left, but if it's standing, it gently glides down. Thus for those two reasons, I have mine standing up.

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