06-08-2013 01:45 PM - edited 06-08-2013 02:05 PM
Um Console is more profitable then PC do to cheap hardware and mass production/sales of games. PC is more Original because anyone can desgin for PC.
i beg to differ in a way.. yes it true to we all can get a latop for 350$ which is the low end.. but if want somethng thats going to play good games and not just pop cap games(no offence to anyone).. You will need to spend 2-3K$ or better on a pc.
PC games make mass money.. I mean a ton of money, more than any console game could make. . Alot games are micro trans action on pc, some have 30 milion users. some have 5 million players and alot of these are not as good the console games in any department but still pull in 5-20million dollars a year or per game. So this goes to point games are cheaper to make but make great revenue.. this actaully help devs.
I cant rememebr the name of the franchise but its been around for 10-20 yrs on pc and they are not hurting for any money. They dont need console profits. Not pc games make ess than console games.. I think the sim makes good money on pc.
$2-3k lol build it yourself and M$ fiscal years http://www.microsoft.com/investor/reports/ar12/fin
Anyone can say build it your self and you save money that is actaully false, you lose value when build it your self becuase the whole point you'll need to upgrade it after some time. Doesnt matter what it is.. Upgrading dont come cheap, alot people go with what does about the same and what they can afford,. That does not mean your getting value, you actually losing value becuase they made the expensive parts like thay did for a reason. Just becuase it does the same mean doesnt it is the same in value and lasting ability.
You dont have to show me ea/activision profits i know they are billion dollar publishers, but that does not make them great and must have in gaming to operate and successful and only way under the sun.. Heres a story you may have heard before.. Rockstar games devs came from pc.. those guys where living in same apart ment . sleeping on the floor, turned out (made) grand theft auto1 it stayed on uk pc games charts for 3-4 years number 1. Sony got the game and rockstar games on a contract gave them a budget for gta 3 and rest is history.. They are billion dollar AAAA publisher today.. So in small, sony has found great pc devs and turned / helped turn them into million/billioniares dev companies from their own hard work in a partnership not just once but mant times.. they can do same on pc or those indy devs there.. which is the whole point im making, sony has a sercurity team, they dont need to dmr/ or w.e it called why? Just set up a digital game rebuy program for their own games and ea/ activison the same for their own with their own revnue not sonys. They dont need to bow to any demands to hurt profits and be out of biz by ea/ activision and like greed of second sales.
They dont need ea/ activision and those oppressors like publisher devs dictating anything for their own pockets.If they want that 2nd game sale money then set a program on their own web sites or place of buisness to let gamers sell them back digitally or physically. Everyone know drm or w/e it called is going kill m$. Nintendo didnt do it, now look at them struggling to make sales with no 3rd party support. How is that right to ruin another man company for own pockets.??
If was me i wouldnt do it either, i dont blame nintendo, 3rd party support be dammed.. If I heavlly invested in sercurity team for my company for everone in it like sony has done , then i dont need a outsider telling me about mouse traps and how to use them to better anything.. I dont care how much money they have made. Success come from hard work and dedication from your own formula not someone bigger than you barking demands and drastc change for their own benifits or should i say greed.
lIke said pc games can make money under sony umbrella and they have. Ea/activion are not only way under thae sun becuase they hae the most money.. Go look at the reputation of both and let me know which better to make deal with?.. I'd take the indie devs every single time over them two becuase money is money at the end of the day. They are after greed and to kill consoles for the sake of greed . I dont see it anyother way!! It happening right before your eyes..its not a joke
Many thing you say are not true some are but more importantly, it is entirely to hard to understand you work on your english some. However I digress, as it is time to debunk your statements. Building yourself does indeed lower cost of PC as most people who offer custom Pc charge service fee and fees just for their name. Apple anyone? Upgrading is costly if you are trying to buy the latest model whatever so if you do not want latest buy another previous model ,futhermore sell your old hardware there is a market for that. As for the profits you have lost me. Rockstar was PC now its Console and makes more profit hence, Console is more profitable. For the rest I had mentioned no comments I believe and will wait holding the ban hammer over M$ like everyone else. Kansei Shouri Seikai Seifuku Neo Zeon Banzai.
Look, what did i say that is not true? so m$ is isnt looking like crap in the media over drm or w/e its called. and it forcasted not be me, but by many folk in the buisness world to lose sales on the console from the xbox gamers over the new policys..Also wii u is not hurting from no 3rd party support? What part did I say that was false?
When say I value. i mean personal income money.. You know out of the pocket cost? Every thing you just typed went with i just explained in losing value( out of the pocket cost).. Yes you can build a good pc for 150-600$ with after market parts and chips that do about the same as the hi end brands, but the thing with pc gaming is, everthing goes higher and higher very fast. Which means you have to upgrade in about 6mth to a year to play a game like crysis 2 and those type of high image and qaulity producing games. Not just games out right, but time big name pc games.
Rockstar games started as pc dev.. they went to sony on a contract, then went back to 3rd party and they do console games and pc games. But theyre a independant 3rd party dev.. not a outright console dev.
Btw you missed my point. console game dont always make greater profit than pc games. The sim come from pc. show me a game that make the same amount of profit on console in a sims like way? Pc games on console make more profit, not becuase it on console because console gamers know the quality of the game and dont want pay the price of building a pc to attain such games. Also the price of the game in contract way for both parties for the game to be on console.Is why they make more
Another example starcraft dev dont need console money.. valve ,, i dont think their games sold better on console than pc nor looked better.. I really dont
06-08-2013 02:02 PM
06-08-2013 02:39 PM
I am saying that your views on the PC upgrading is false. Well the PC has taken quicker strides of advancement in tech the depreciation is more than a year. I am not commenting on your first paragraph only talking but PC and profits. http://www.destructoid.com/pc-vs-console-gaming-in
fographic-pc-is-making-a-comeback-212611.phtml This here demonstrates that PC is making more profit on games only but the consoles themselves make more because they cost less.
Im saying putting a good pc games on console creates mass profit, becuase they already make profit on pc. Alot of pc games dont need any console revenue to be profitable.Some pc games already make more than some console games by being on pc alone, but not every pc game is making more. But when they put them on console they make make mass revenue if it popular..
You mean cost more to the consumer to buy thus bringing in greater revenue.. i understand what your saying..
Its false in way when say it cost alot to build a pc ,, yes true in a way.. I see your point but same time a alien ware pc cost 5-10K$ and is on level with the times for advanced gaming. Building a pc might get a few games at a lower cost but you'll need to upgrade thus spending more money, thus losing value.Alot of peope dont have that kind time. This is why console games make a little more money.
06-08-2013 02:49 PM
06-08-2013 07:44 PM - edited 06-08-2013 07:46 PM
06-08-2013 09:08 PM - edited 06-08-2013 09:16 PM
PC or console is basically all this thread is. EA started making games on PC in 1982, and branched over to consoles with the publishing of "Boulder Dash" in 1984 on the NES. That in is only 2 years after the company was started. This actually leads me to believe that EA has pretty much always had consoles in mind.
The company was founded on May 28, 1982 during one of the gaming industry's greatest times. 14 months later on July 15, 1983 the Famicom was released. The Famicom was a direct competitor to Atari, and EA had not had good relations with Atari. With consoles making tons and tons of sales and games for them coming in by the truck loads, you cannot tell me that EA didn't have their eyes set on the console market. They just needed a new player to enter the field and Nintendo did that for them in just over a year, which gave EA enough time to build enough revenue from PCs to be able to take the leap into consoles without committing suicide if they didn't do well. They also gave the devs of Boulder Dash time to figure out the inner workings of the Famicom/NES while porting the game from PC.
Activison was in the same boat as EA was. PC was nothing more than a stepping stone for the to start out on.
Yes actaully.. Go back to the part where I say.. they are just need pc to stay alive.. Because they are from that market, they dont need nintendo / m$/ sony. They always had the money
They are leeches same as for activision.. they suck the blood and fat out of you and find new host each and every time. The know how to kill a host(atari anyone)..Sony should take notes,, They are not playing nice, they dont dictate any rules of the gaming world..This is why im telling sony look this is a set up.. you dont need those 2 clowns in the pc market.
If those 2 companies was serious about this, why dont they have a personal web site to buy back used games or a place to send games to for a credit refund?? You see what im saying,,? they are shovling power moves down on people on drm or no support and have nothing to show they are serious about taking action.. You dont force anyone to do drm or restict support and dont have the proper climate for that ?? Sony has a top notch sercurity company on the pay roll they dont need drm?? if ea. activision and those guys want to do that drm or buy back program,,then where is the web site or place to do that from them to start.?
In small they need to practice what they preach. This is a set up , nothing short than kill 2 birds with 1 stone type of thing..