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Re: Do trophies create Elitism?

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Nope don't really feel elite.. trophies/platinums are fun for me like an accomplishment i love getting trophies
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In my honest opinion, trophies do not enhance the experience that a video game can provide. I don’t need a checklist to tell me how I should be playing a video game and if a video game has no replay value to offer me whatsoever then I’m certainly not going to find it by looking for some trophies.

 

Trophies don’t mean anything to me. They used to be a way for me to show people how much I enjoyed certain video games but in many cases this doesn’t hold true anymore. I simply don’t have time to hunt for trophies so I don’t know what people can learn from my PlayStation Profile. 

 

I think simply playing video games and dedicating your time to them makes you a better gamer. If trophies are a driving force behind someone’s desire to play video games then what incentives does that individual have to keep playing a video game once all of its trophies have been collected?

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SweetPoison13 wrote:

In my honest opinion, trophies do not enhance the experience that a video game can provide. I don’t need a checklist to tell me how I should be playing a video game and if a video game has no replay value to offer me whatsoever then I’m certainly not going to find it by looking for some trophies.

 

Trophies don’t mean anything to me. They used to be a way for me to show people how much I enjoyed certain video games but in many cases this doesn’t hold true anymore. I simply don’t have time to hunt for trophies so I don’t know what people can to learn from my PlayStation Profile. 

 

I think simply playing video games and dedicating your time to them makes you a better gamer. If trophies are a driving force behind someone’s desire to play video games then what incentives does that individual have to keep playing a video game once all of its trophies have been collected?


I'm very much the same, don't care too much about trophies on my PS3 whatsoever now. When they first showed up, I tried to go for the Platinums but that was only until 2010 I stopped caring because my first child was born. Stopped caring about my time to get trophies as I cared more about my time with my kid. Second kid came along and now I have even less time to play games on my PS3. As some of my friends in the forum can attest (who are part of my friends list), I'm only on at night when it comes to my PS3, it's only after I put my kids to bed do I have time to play ( usually after 9pm). During the weekend I get more play time between 1pm to 4pm due to nap time for my kids +along with after 9pm).  With this little amount of time I have, I don't even bother for platinums and trophy hunting, just try to beat the games as fast as possible and move to the next one.

 

Now my Vita on the other hand, I play that at work and often times at home with my kids at my side. I have more platinums on that than my PS3 Smiley Tongue! That's why I can't wait for the PS4, remote playing via the Vita is going to be awesome and a godsend!

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Its like a sign you arrived. Its a social thing. Extreme gamers put a great value on them. I don't myself I just play the game and hope I get a few.

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Re: Do trophies create Elitism?

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Not for me....

For me Trophy hunting is an idication that I've done everything in the game to complete it.
In the past, I didn't care too much about them. But in the few months or so, I've found that I would try to get Platinums and I've felt that I get my moneys worth by getting the Platinum trophy. 

Some games, are far too old to get the Platinum trophy for though, which is pretty much any game that has online trophies. 
I'd love to Platinum Killzone 2 and 3, but I'm not aware of its online community.

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Elitism is created by overly-competitive people.  It existed in video games long before trophies and achievements.  Trophies and Achievements are simply the natural progression of the high scores of the early arcade era.  One need look no further than Billy Mitchell to see that competitive jerks have, and will always, exist in video gaming.

 

 

I would miss trophies if they went away - they help me gauge my completion of a game.  I don't hunt for them, but I would not have as much fun if they were gone.

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I enjoy getting trophies and being a trophy hunter but im not rude in any kind of way and dont see myself better than anyone else just gives me a since of accomplishment and also more gameplay time on my games so I actually get the $60 out of a game

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OniJsan wrote:

Not really. Most trophy hunters try to get trophies from every single game out there and you can't be
"Elite" if you obtained trophies from easy games.

 

Plus it never really sticks cause after you gain a certain amount of trophies peoples thoughts of you change.

 

When I had like around 4000-5000 trophies My friends list at the time was like oh wow cool! you got so many!

Yet it seems the more I get the less it seems to be cool and how people just think you cheat cause you have a high count.

 

:/ first day I hit 10k and I was happy only to be crushed by someone pointing and saying things about ya..



Bleh.. So it doesn't create Elitism to me. Just shows me how much I like to game.


Interesting. I equate that more to the newness of the trophy system wearing off. I've heard on numerous podcasts where the presenters are talking about what lengths they went to get a trophy or cheevo, and how now they can't be bothered. It's possible that people have come to a thinking that a level 22 and 10K trophies won't buy you a cup of coffee. ( I know that with greatness awaits that changed, but it still has no real value outside of Sony).

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KZMProductionsGT wrote:

i have zero plats lol


*High Five*

 

Welcome to our elite No plats club Smiley Tongue

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It all depends on the gamer to be honest. I've been on the forums for 6 years. I've been a gamer for 30+ years. Over the course of years I've watched gaming change and I've seen forum conversation change. To an extent Trophies/Achievements have been one of the driving forces behind the conversation change.

 

It used to be that a game's worth was judged by how many times you played the game, not how easy or hard the Trophies are to get. Final Fantasy VI and IX are 2 of my favorite PS 1 RPGs. I've played both at least a half dozen times over the years. (I played FF VI as FF III on the SNES 3 times before I'd even touched FF VII). People used to ask what games had good replay value. Games like Ratchet & Clank, God of War I and II, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest were amongst games PS 2 users used to hail for replayability.

 

Now it seems like gamers only care about whether a game has easy Trophies. They won't buy a PS 1 classic because it doesn't have Trophies. They want PS 1 and PS 2 classics to have forced Trophies implemented via a software patch, or the games are worthless. Some gamers will look down at other gamers because they don't have any Platinum Trophies. I've even seen people use Trophies as a measure of how good someone is. I hate to say it, but just because you got a Platinum Trophy in Call of Duty doesn't mean you're an elite gamer. 

 

If you allow Trophies to determine a game or a gamer's worth, then you've allowed the Elitist mentality to rule. I don't use Trophies as a gauge for anything. Sure I have a few Trophies and a few Plats, but I did that for myself. Not for anyone else.

 

 

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