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MAG died for a reason, why would a sequel do any better?


MAG died due to developer incompetence. It lived as long as it did because the MAG Community kept it going and I'm willing to bet there's not another game community on this forum that invested as much time in to keeping it worth coming back to.

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If you hadn't a >3kdr and a few grims your opinion doesn't count.

Hehey, the Mag community did find us after all! Smiley Tongue

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Setzaroth wrote:

MAG died for a reason, why would a sequel do any better?


MAG died due to developer incompetence. It lived as long as it did because the MAG Community kept it going and I'm willing to bet there's not another game community on this forum that invested as much time in to keeping it worth coming back to.


Amen to that.

 

BTW, as long as we're here, what WAS the reason that you guys latched onto it so strongly? Whatever that "cult-classic" magic was, I think THAT is the main thing that would make a sequel worth while for Sony if they could emulate that again.

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Re: Design H-MAG2 (Hypothetical Massive Action Game 2 (H-MAG2))

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phantom_T wrote:

Setzaroth wrote:

MAG died for a reason, why would a sequel do any better?


MAG died due to developer incompetence. It lived as long as it did because the MAG Community kept it going and I'm willing to bet there's not another game community on this forum that invested as much time in to keeping it worth coming back to.


Amen to that.

 

BTW, as long as we're here, what WAS the reason that you guys latched onto it so strongly? Whatever that "cult-classic" magic was, I think THAT is the main thing that would make a sequel worth while for Sony if they could emulate that again.


 

I would have to say it was the fact that there was no gimmick in the game, well mainly in sabo the only thing you could rely on was your gun game and friends. If you won a sabo match it was because you were just better, there were no strikes no special abilities just pure teamwork and how good you were with a gun. I feel like most other multiplayers have strikes and special weapons or power weapons that make the game more who can obtain those perks first. In MAG it was who had better friends Smiley Tongue Which you can tell with all the clan building and what not, that made the community so strong.

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Re: Design H-MAG2 (Hypothetical Massive Action Game 2 (H-MAG2))

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phantom_T wrote:

Setzaroth wrote:

MAG died for a reason, why would a sequel do any better?


MAG died due to developer incompetence. It lived as long as it did because the MAG Community kept it going and I'm willing to bet there's not another game community on this forum that invested as much time in to keeping it worth coming back to.


If you look at the total posts, the only community to have more posts than MAG's was Warhawk's, and it's not by much and they had a three year head start.

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Jefferton_Alive wrote:

Arron_Rift wrote:

phantom_T wrote:

Setzaroth wrote:

MAG died for a reason, why would a sequel do any better?


MAG died due to developer incompetence. It lived as long as it did because the MAG Community kept it going and I'm willing to bet there's not another game community on this forum that invested as much time in to keeping it worth coming back to.


Amen to that.

 

BTW, as long as we're here, what WAS the reason that you guys latched onto it so strongly? Whatever that "cult-classic" magic was, I think THAT is the main thing that would make a sequel worth while for Sony if they could emulate that again.


 

I would have to say it was the fact that there was no gimmick in the game, well mainly in sabo the only thing you could rely on was your gun game and friends. If you won a sabo match it was because you were just better, there were no strikes no special abilities just pure teamwork and how good you were with a gun. I feel like most other multiplayers have strikes and special weapons or power weapons that make the game more who can obtain those perks first. In MAG it was who had better friends Smiley Tongue Which you can tell with all the clan building and what not, that made the community so strong.


That's part of it. The only in game reward for doing good was a burst of music. There wasn't **bleep** rewards like "headshot", "comeback", "double kill", or "avenger". You got 5+xp, that's it and I was perfectly fine with that.

 

The lack of aim-assist was a huge part too. The only other game I'm aware of where it's not even an option is KZSmiley FrustratedF. I may be playing that right now if I had a PS4.

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The Japanese kept MAG alive. American Domination died around Spring 2012. The Japanese kept playing Domination until it died during Japan prime time around October 2013. The Japanese then brought Domination back to life for the final 2 weeks of MAG in January 2014. 

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Jefferton_Alive wrote:

Arron_Rift wrote:

phantom_T wrote:

Setzaroth wrote:

MAG died for a reason, why would a sequel do any better?


MAG died due to developer incompetence. It lived as long as it did because the MAG Community kept it going and I'm willing to bet there's not another game community on this forum that invested as much time in to keeping it worth coming back to.


Amen to that.

 

BTW, as long as we're here, what WAS the reason that you guys latched onto it so strongly? Whatever that "cult-classic" magic was, I think THAT is the main thing that would make a sequel worth while for Sony if they could emulate that again.


 

I would have to say it was the fact that there was no gimmick in the game, well mainly in sabo the only thing you could rely on was your gun game and friends. If you won a sabo match it was because you were just better, there were no strikes no special abilities just pure teamwork and how good you were with a gun. I feel like most other multiplayers have strikes and special weapons or power weapons that make the game more who can obtain those perks first. In MAG it was who had better friends Smiley Tongue Which you can tell with all the clan building and what not, that made the community so strong.


Just to play devil's advocate, wasn't the gimmick in the title "Massive Action Game."   Even though I didn't play it much I remember the buzz being about the huge battles and large player count (TBH, everything has some kind of gimmick).

 

This thread is really interesting though.  Would you say the parts about having friends and community being so strong led to more pub stomps or more brutal pub stomps than most games?  If not or if so, how would you say the game mechanics played a role?

 

 

 

 

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Playing with good clans or groups in large numbers increased your chances of winning especially in Aquisition or Domination. 

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Playing with good clans or groups in large numbers increased your chances of winning especially in Aquisition or Domination. 


So, if I were to buy the game a year into the life cycle and play lone wolf or with maybe a friend or two, how would the games go compared to other alternatives?  For example, would spawn camping and base camping be worse in MAG?  Would it be likely my win/loss, k/d, etc. would be much lower or just a little lower?   Was there any matchmaking that evened the odds (based on skill for example). 

 

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