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Re: if 20 is in fact it

Oct 23, 2012

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Titles are customizable name cards. As for how many costumes? Don't know. We just know there are going to be some. You can't pretend to hypothetically know everything this game has to offer and say it has not as much content as another game but then when the statement of not knowing what is in the game is brought up ignore it. You have no idea how much content is in this game so you can compare it, thus why I stopped reading.

 

And the four most requested characters? Well hard to say they are more requested when the ones already in the game won't be requested. And as stated Superbot doesn't put whoever they want in the game, it's up to the developers. They should be in means nothing.

 

And I've argued nothing, you've the one stated opinions as facts. You know almost nothing about what this game has to offer outside of it's cast and stages yet you already know it has nowhere near as much content as Brawl? Interesting. 


I know everything there is to know about this game that has been made publically available. All my posts outside of 3 have been on this forum. Guess what? I'm disappointed, that's all there is too it. Now who's stating opinion as fact? You're claiming to know how much I know about this game. The only "fact" I stated that is clearly opinion is that Brawl has more content. Which it almost surely does, considering we have only a month left until the game releases. If it doesn't, well then, I'll come on here and admit I'm wrong.


We have a month and we know NOTHING about the game... That is my point. We don't know what modes are offered, we don't know anything about the story mode nor how it will work or be presented. What if they offered us a ten-fifteen hour long story mode with epic cutscenes and such along the lines of Dissidia where we have real conversations between characters? I'm not saying it will have more content than Brawl, I'm just saying we know little to nothing about the game because Superbot is keeping it secret. We don't know how many costumes, we don't know if there are secret stages (to my knowledge they haven't given a stage limit), know little about the items, minions, story... There is so much unknown. Not knowing much about this game is a fact, not an opinion.

 

As for sucking up to Superbot? Um... No. I'm just not self entitled, I didn't have some dream roster of characters that when they didn't make it I got all **bleep**. I'm happy to have a game where I can have Nathan Drake punch the crap out of Sly Cooper cause I NEVER thought that would ever happen. Are there characters I would have liked more? Yes ofcourse. I think Super Smash has a ton of horrible characters and wasted opportunities (Really need three clones of Fox and Link?) but in the end of the day you have to make everyone happy. There isn't a single character that doesn't have a fan base or desire to be played. That's good enough for me. I'm so excited to play this game.

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I'm pretty sure those who are angry that Crash isn't on disc wouldn't cry foul if Spike wasn't in this game. When Spike appeared in the leaked files and was actually announced, I was surprised. He is also a huge part of PS1 history along with Crash, Cloud, and Spyro, but just doesn't have as large of a fanbase. I'm happy Superbot even added him in (and maybe for the Japanese fanbase because it's larger over there)

The roster is fine, I already have my favorites. I do care about the "big 4", I do believe they should earn a spot and they will, as dlc. The fact that each character has a story and a rival is part that makes the game great along with unlockables. Some people actually like the roster and like the game and aren't kissing Superbot's **bleep**. Hell, some people are buying it because of one character. Raiden fans had a little burst of excitement in their fandom when he was announced and same happened in the Parappa, Sly, MidEviland Ape Escape fandoms. It won't make up the amount of people who won't buy the game because of 1 or a few characters (who will come by eventually) but it shows that people are happy with the roster choices and will support the game, some in hopes that it may bring back their characters.
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Oct 23, 2012

You know you people wouldn't be happy even if crash and spyro were in because you would then you be complaining about how they looked

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Playstation battle royale is supposed to be a celebration of playstation history, a museum to all the things that helped shape the playstation today. What we ended up getting though is more of an advertisment then what was originaly pitched to us at the begining.

Don't get me wrong I am a big follower of this game, almost all of my 900+ post are on this fourm and I been very optimistic until now when I finally see that it seems like 20 may be all were getting.  It's was not like I had high expectations with expecting 25ish characters and in fact considered it to speculation toward the low end of what we should get. Though I say that it's not even the amount of characters that bug me it's who is missing from the 20 that makes this roster lackluster.

So where is crash the early mascot of the playstation era that helped shape the ps1 and is still considered a ps character even though he went third party, where is the final fantasy character which has been a big ps title until 13, where is snake who also meant a lot to the system and even had his latest game exclusive to the ps3? The psycic in me see's future post saying that the company are asking to much money for the characters, which is a lousy defence since sony is a big company and can afford those characters, Paul gale said it best on his blog
"And one other thing…there should honestly be no reason why PlayStation’s first mascot, regardless of where he’s at nowadays, doesn’t make the game. I mean, unless Crash Bandicoot was sold by Activision to Nintendo, he should be in PSASBR in my opinion. And money is no excuse, either. Sony lost $4 billion between Fall ’06 and Fall ’09 because of the PlayStation 3 and they’re still around, doing just fine. So “if” Activision wanted say…a whopping $1 million, are you telling me that Sony wouldn’t buy him for SuperBot’s game? Obviously, if a company wouldn’t “allow” their character to intermingle with other 3rd party characters or be a “fighter”, that’s one thing, but if it was simply a matter of money…to me, Sony’s pockets are deep enough that they more likely than not “could” have made it happen."

Another argument I see coming is that this is there first game and they want to see how it does before spending there money. Well this is supposly a game the want to turn into a big franshise and if there not willing to gamble and believe in there project why the hell should a potential buyer of the game believe in it when the company making it does not? For the last point I see two members of the forum telling that I am ungrateful and should be happy with what I got and my response to that is is that I have expectation's for a game that was pitched to me as a celebration of ps history  and that I have to put down 60 bucks of my cash that could have went to something else you bet I want this to live up to the hype they gave us in the begining.

The third party cast is what screams advertisment for this game. I won't say anything about dante since it was said capcom had the final say in what they picked and dmc is defintly one of the only three third party choosen that made sence. Look at raiden don't get me wrong I love raiden he is an awsome character but him over snake is bland advertisment for revergence, and there is no way that a game about the celebration of ps history should have him over snake and I am not even going the route of snake being in brawl theory because that's just ludicres. Any body that knows me knows I am the biggest bioshock fan there is and love the fact big daddy is included, but I will admit that he does not deserve inclusion over the big three mentioned in the article. It was cool of superbot to have a out of left field character no one expected but make sure you have the characters that are highly demanded first.

I still have some hopes that the final four will be added by day 1 dlc like was rumored, but have a strange feeling that if there in they will be the dlc announced at the vga's and it will be jan before we get the game we should have got day 1 the ball was dropped somewhere but where is the question, and that's not even going into the fact that they revealed all the characters 3 months before the game comes out wth?
Some point at the gameplay and say it's enough reasion to buy, which I do say is no short of fun, but the point is the gameplay is not what sells this game the roster does and I hope this article becomes moot when the game realeases.well I Hope we get surpised and I have not fully given up hope that omar is tricking us with words,


"And money is no excuse, either. Sony lost $4 billion between Fall ’06 and Fall ’09 because of the PlayStation 3 and they’re still around, doing just fine. So “if” Activision wanted say…a whopping $1 million, are you telling me that Sony wouldn’t buy him for SuperBot’s game? Obviously, if a company wouldn’t “allow” their character to intermingle with other 3rd party characters or be a “fighter”, that’s one thing, but if it was simply a matter of money…to me, Sony’s pockets are deep enough that they more likely than not “could” have made it happen.""

 

i almost stopped reading there... i swear that that has to be the most retarded reasoning i've seen all week...

 

at this point in time no sony is not a big and rich company...

 

as you yourself stated they are having major losses and are downsizing rapidly

 

 

 

" What we ended up getting though is more of an advertisment then what was originaly pitched to us at the begining."

 

again thats retarded that point can be argued for what? 3 characters of 20?

 

 

 

"that I have to put down 60 bucks of my cash that could have went to something"

 

you absolutely do not have to... no one is forcing you... should you not feel satisfied with what this game is offering spend your money elsewhere

 

 

 

finally i'll say again that the characters are not under sony's control and its not hard to unerstand why they aren't in

 

however should anyone not find the game worthy of purchase by all means don't buy it

 

and again i must express my shock that a roster with jak, rachet, sly, kratos, sweet tooth, sir, dan, heihachi, drake etc isn't celebrating playstation history

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Big Daddy is really the only major 3rd Party character who doesn't have that big of a tie to the Playstation brand, and he isn't an advertisement since his series is done with. Bioshock Infinite doesn't use Big Daddys.

Dante and Raiden are clearly geared at promoting their newest entires but with the magic of costumes, they still represent their respective series and the roots in Playstation. Raiden has his MGS2 costume and you know Dante is going to have a more classic costume option.
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If Crash was in it, how many times would people actually play as him...the way some people whine, I'd expect them to play as him exclusively - any character switching and Omar Kendall personally comes to their house and knocks a few teeth out.
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As much as I would like him in cause he deserves it, I probably wouldn't use him at all. Maybe for any trophies or unlockables but he's not someone I have interest in playing. Now if we had some Grandia / Wild Arms representation... Aww yeah.
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I think out of all the characters missed - the only character Id honestly play a lot with would be Kat. Crash's moveset would be meh, Snake would just be another shooter and Cloud...maybe - but Raiden & Nariko look to be more interesting swordsman.
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Snake has been done in Smash, so his exclusion doesn't hurt my feelings. I'd be curious to see what they could do but I'm not going to lose sleep or not get the game over it.

Cloud seems meh. He's another sword user, we have a dozen of them. Sure there are things they could do with materia but again won't lose sleep.

Crash. Kat. Wanderer. Dart.

Those are the four I'm excited to see if they are real and how they turnout. I've little interest in Crash but how he is used and made could change that. Having his super be driving around in his kart for instance could be awesome.
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You're interested in wander (not sure why you're calling him wanderer) who is just a sword user without many attacks..
then there is cloud, who is a sword user but access to magic. surely they are similar it doesnt matter which of the 2.
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