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Made me realize how much i used raiden's forward grab to link into many other combos. Lol im having a hard time winning!! Kat hurry up and come out! lol

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Jan 22, 2013
The simple removal of that grab destroys a lot of Raiden players. I just want them to fix Evil Coles Up grab getting you a level 1 super.
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Jan 22, 2013

Nathan Drake doesn't really need nerfs on his moves, maybe the barrel should gain a little less AP, but otherwise he is balanced

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Jan 22, 2013
Yup, Drake is fine as is.
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Jan 22, 2013
Yeah that was a pretty huge nerf. I no longer have any reason to NOT stay on the ground and just hold block against Raiden.

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Jan 22, 2013

They seem to be fixing what they need to. Drake had the broke infinite that needed to be removed, but they didnt mess with anything else whice is nice.

and Im glad they nerfed Raiden some. He was almost broken in his previous form. Ill be curious to see how he handles now. Same with Kratos.

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I just want them to fix Evil Coles Up grab getting you a level 1 super.

This would make EC a low tier character. The only thing EC can do against you is his punch. You stand there and block, EC can't do anything against you. Any combo he has that doesn't stem from the punch gives ~50AP or less. It's his only useful confirm for an otherwise crappy super. He needs something to be able to punish turtling.

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dragonsroc wrote:


MarcusSoul wrote:
I just want them to fix Evil Coles Up grab getting you a level 1 super.


This would make EC a low tier character. The only thing EC can do against you is his punch. You stand there and block, EC can't do anything against you. Any combo he has that doesn't stem from the punch gives ~50AP or less. It's his only useful confirm for an otherwise crappy super. He needs something to be able to punish turtling.



I think we're all forgetting that grabbing has a purpose other than starting combos. If somebody is turtling, just steal their AP. Make them NOT block. If you try a risky move and they block it, that's them just reading you well and/or you being predictable.

 

EC would definitely NOT be low tier without grab into Level 1 when he has nades, grinding, tripwire grenade, firebird, oil slick, good comboing ability, and down-square, to go along with the Unstoppable Giga Punch of Doom and Utter Destruction. If Raiden ends up being bottom tier because of this nerf on his grab, consider me wrong, but until then I'll stand by this opinion.

 

Some people say that not everyone has a kill confirm (which is false, some are just better than others). Well, not every character can combo directly off of a grab.

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A very large % of the cast can combo off of grabs.

That being said I think removing the super armor from the punch would make EC perfect.

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Jan 23, 2013
Barrel > Giga Punch.
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