We played local multiplyaer and my friend choose raiden and it was his first time playing. He played SSB competitvly and he figured out to just crumple ppl and then grab them with raiden. so he do a forward square or circle knock u over and grabbed you when you where getting up. then either combo you with neutral square or wait for you to get up and grab you. Grabbing beast any evades and rolls. So he would sit ontop of you and grab as you roll away building his ap by what you built of hitting him when you managed to get away. so how is this fun? We saw the numbers of raidens ap gain he gets about 85% of his super off neutral square and combing it with a grab he gets a lvl 1 and just waits for you to get up or roll then kill you with out any chance of escaping. Also tried different lvls and bigger ones were better as if he knocked you away you could get up. On dojo he literally just bounced you into a wall and super as you hit the wall and fell into the super. and when you hit the wall you can't recover right away you have to wait a bit and so he can super in that time. Raiden needs to be looked at and more than likely tuned down a bit. Try it for your self have one person play raiden and the other who ever then just do a crumple and then grab them as they get up. it was no fun. Don't say just learn to avoid cause you can't avoid grabs by rolling. I had to jump away and he would catch me when i came down. I could maybe build to a two if i got lucky but he went grab happy.
I did and he's like maybe im good at this game. I then told him fight me when i play raiden and he was raiden. I did what he did to me and I knew some better combos and kicked his butt up and down the level I got him to 2 lives left before he got one of mine and then i finished him. I was like its not you its a character that has easy skill level and highest ap gain. Stop spamming throws there meant to stop threes not to be annoying. He didn't care he never won FFA or 2v2 casue he would focus on one opponent and grab them while the rest of us focused on ap gain and hitting him wihile he grabbed and got 3 when he spam lvl one. But the fact that playstyle he showed made me never want to do 1v1 against raiden of how fast he is.
I know I learned raiden, I dont play him cause i find him visually lacking except his lvl 3, but the fact my friend just picked it up and played that way which was no fun in 1v1, and having the attitude from playing fighting games is haha i can do it means im good. then i proved my point its not you its that Raiden is on the stronger side and not as balanced. he wasn't happy when I beat him with raiden. Next ill use kratos and just use forward square and juggle him. He needs to be knocked down a few pegs off his high horse.