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Treasure Hunter
ATOMB0Y_
Posts: 5,237
Registered: ‎08-14-2012

Re: Should Sly lose AP for excessive hiding?

its not really an issue untill a super is activated and you are all frantic to get kills and he hides ritenext to you almost everytime
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Wastelander
deathbunny600
Posts: 647
Registered: ‎10-21-2009

Re: Should Sly lose AP for excessive hiding?

His disadvantage is that he can't dodge roll thread closed
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Wastelander
CalDW19940
Posts: 606
Registered: ‎10-07-2010

Re: Should Sly lose AP for excessive hiding?

Block button > Invisibility

It's not hard to keep track of him and for 1vs1 play you'll always know where he is because the camera pans out depending how far away he is so no he doesn't need anything like that since he has invisibility to try and make up for the fact he can't block or dodge.
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Lombax Warrior
SiftRock
Posts: 187
Registered: ‎11-28-2012

Re: Should Sly lose AP for excessive hiding?

I don't think he should be able to use his level 1 from being cloaked. Also he should have a period where he reappears, just a small animation that way it's not just "Oh release the button and throw a level 1 instantly"
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Cannon Fodder
DigidevilUK
Posts: 18
Registered: ‎11-26-2012

Re: Should Sly lose AP for excessive hiding?

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I would call Slys cloak OP but the ability to go into an uncancellable level 1 from it is.

In a 1v1 I can keep track of him with effort but in a ffa I dont have time to be watching him...

 

I would say he should lose AP but he should probably have a super delay from stealth where he becomes visible then uses it. Htats enough time for me to dodge it like anyone elses. Otherwise its just a 1-3 kill 0 move setup.

 

Characters should be able to super from block so sly should super from cloak.

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Grease Monkey
Uknowho
Posts: 308
Registered: ‎01-02-2009

Re: Should Sly lose AP for excessive hiding?

Slys invisibility is fine (I play as him tho) he can only use neutral square while invisible (which on steals the 40 AP if he attacks from behind, which is kinda tricky to do.)

His level one can be interrupted, it just is such a small window that it almost never happens. ( sometimes I just pop the level one without thinking and I've gotten knocked out of using a level 1)
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Splicer
AllStarsHelp
Posts: 51
Registered: ‎12-04-2012

Re: Should Sly lose AP for excessive hiding?

No that's retarded. He can't dodge or air dodge so hiding is his only defense against supers. Quit being a baby he's easy as hell to see while invisible
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Lombax Warrior
Stockton572
Posts: 76
Registered: ‎01-05-2011

Re: Should Sly lose AP for excessive hiding?

I think the best way to balance out the invisibility is to make it so he gradually becomes more visible over time. There can be a window where he can stay fully cloaked for, say, eight or nine seconds, but after that window's over, he starts fading into view to the point where holding L1 won't even make his P1 indicator go away. And a way to balance out the window is that for however long he's invisible, he has to wait 1.5x as long for his invisibility to "fully charge," in lack of a better term. IE, if he's invisible for six seconds, he has to wait nine to be invisible for that long again.

 

Sly's got a powerful tool, and I think this suggestion keeps it from becoming a crutch.

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Uncharted Territory
quickfire123
Posts: 1,731
Registered: ‎02-01-2010

Re: Should Sly lose AP for excessive hiding?

Guys sly has an indirect block he can counter and his little bomb barrel can be used to block on top of his invisibility.

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