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Re: ***Reduce Sackboy's level 1 and 2***

Dec 9, 2012

TwistedAvenger you always have great things to say and I've never disagreed with any of your posts on here, but as a fellow ratchet main I have to say that these guys do have a very good point in regards to sackboy. I am level 400+ with sackboy and have played much of that pre-patch, and have played about 4 hours today post patch, and can speak from experiance that sackboys nerf seems excessive. I was still able to beat beginners of course, as you and I could with any character, but when it comes to playing the experianced players the consensus is that Sackboy now feels inferior. His combos aren't connecting either when I play on my Vita post patch and what was previously a 125 ap combo is now a 95 ap combo, although I'll have to do some more testing with that tomorrow.

But yeah, I have 6 characters level 150+ and a level 900+ ratchet and I would confidently chose over my Sackboy post patch. Prior to the patch, Sackboy was in my top 3. I'd suggest instead of saying "I am 100% confident if I practice with him a bit I would do fine with him" that you either do this, and speak from experiance, or stay away from the heated arguments. I think this may be the point that the guys you're arguing with here are driving at. Either way, I miss the old sackboy. Back to Ratchet, Sly, and Toro for me Smiley Happy

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Re: ***Reduce Sackboy's level 1 and 2***

Dec 9, 2012
Ok no offense chunky_shtew but no my point still stands. I don't have to speak from experience. I didn't play him often but I knew how his so gain generally was from playing him. Me playing him more does nothing to my point. My whole point was is I don't even use him and can do well with him do people who were "good" with him should have no problem. As I said I did fine with him and I don't use him my statement about with practice I would do better was basically dating I would win the majority of my matches with him. I admit I may have worded it weirdly but no matter as it stands now I can do pretty well with him and I barely use him I don't need to practice with him and gain experience with him as it does not strengthen or weaken my point at all.
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Re: ***Reduce Sackboy's level 1 and 2***

Dec 9, 2012
*from playing against him I knew how his ap gain was. Not from playing him.
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Re: ***Reduce Sackboy's level 1 and 2***

Dec 9, 2012

I agree the overkilled nurfing him 

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Re: ***Reduce Sackboy's level 1 and 2***

Dec 9, 2012
You have to have skill. That is all


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Re: ***Reduce Sackboy's level 1 and 2***

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Fact: TwA is a moron. 

Fact: Sackboy does not generate enough AP to compete with other characters (regardless of skill) 

Speculatory Fact (videos): Sackboy's AP gains were meant to be adequate not OPed with regards to reaching his previous 3 kill (max) level 3. (Cinematic equivalent) 

I cycle through many characters and it takes Sackboy way too long to reach level 1, in comparison, now and it's nearly impossible to reach level 3 in a 3 minute timed match- unless you're playing against really bad (non-oped) characters. His melee/attacks just don't compare to those of others- his attacks cannot interrupt other character combos- unless you use jelly, which leaves you open to attacks/combos- his attacks do not enable him to "juggle-" his attacks cannot attack more than 1 character at a time, unless you use his electric pad which can hit two characters but only generates 5 AP. 

*I have enough skill and experience with regards to Sackboy- and have only reached level 3 twice against non-oped characters- all the other times I missed the mark- made it up to level 2.25- 2.50- 2.75

 

Only people that think his nerf is great are people that have never played him or people that spam with kratos/raiden/radec/sly/female kratos/jak/Rachet/dante/cole/evil cole/hachi/drake-

 

 

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Re: ***Reduce Sackboy's level 1 and 2 AP Cost***

Dec 9, 2012
Wow you guys are idiots none of what you listed are facts, and Sackboy is fine. I'm done with this you guys are gonna continue to **bleep** no matter what, and Sackboy will be buffed again give iit a month. I don't think he needs it but it will happen. I feel bad for SuperBot it's people like all you guys **bleep** about a completely fine nerf that are always gonna make it a lose/lose situation and nothing they do will satisfy you ever.
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Re: ***Reduce Sackboy's level 1 and 2 AP Cost***

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If it was a "completely fine nerf" they wouldn't need to buff him in a month. Moron.
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Re: ***Reduce Sackboy's level 1 and 2 AP Cost***

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I never said they need to buff him in a month I said they will to shut people like you up. Learn how to read.
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Re: ***Reduce Sackboy's level 1 and 2 AP Cost***

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His level 1 is pretty bad yea, but at least he can kill with it from a throw (2/3 of the time)- or an electric trap. Drop to 130 probably wouldn't be too rough. Level 2 isn't too bad, not sure what the AP is for it now but there are plenty of worse supers.

Nerf was fine. I actually thought it was going to be too minor... until I heard about the AP cost increase as well. The level 3 itself was the issue but if this works than whatevs.

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