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Dec 13 2012
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Ratchet exploit that needs looking at.

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Hi everyone,

 

I was playing  with a friend and we kept getting match made with the same guy playing Ratchet, he was an average player overall, decent with Ratchet but the issue is with an exploit he kept using with his Level 1 Ulti.

If Ratchet uses his grab ability to suck the player into his gun, then walk over to a wall, he can fire the player and trap them between the wall and his ulti resulting in a 100% chance of death. 

This may read like this guy just had me beat but, its pretty hard not to get caught in the cone of his grab attack if you are playing a mele character, its near impossible with Raiden for example who has no ranged abilities. We played him 3 or 4 times and each time he used this and got multiple kills.

 

It just strikes me as totally unballanced and more of an exploit than just good tactics as it isn't exactly a difficult to pull off. I dont know if this is the best place to register a complaint / concern so if anyone knows where is best I'll happily repost it somewhere else.

Anyone else experienced this?

 

Cheers!

Perilion.

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It sucks (pun intended) but I believe it is his only, or almost his only way to combo into that LVL1.  At the very least most if not ALL (although some have admittedly not been found yet if they have them) characters have combos into their LVL1.

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A Raiden player complaining about cheap Lvl 1 setups? Now I've heard everything
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Are you the guy I bet with ratchet by using the suck cannon then the level 1?
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Dec 13, 2012
The vacuum cannot be cancelled. Once the player starts using it, he must remain "sucking" until the animation ends. I'm not sure exactly how long it lasts, but it is definitely quite some time. This is the time to strike from behind, or shoot if you have ranged abilities. If you notice they have level 1, expect the grab coming and do your best to bait it out and punish.

I suggest trying Ratchet for yourself in practice mode and getting used to how long the grab animation lasts.
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I can't wait to try this. Ratchet is fun to play as.

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This is not a problem his suck cannon is not hard to avoid. If it happened multiple times that's all you.
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Are you kidding me TC? More than half of the cast can combo into their level 1. Some can do it easily and they have multiple setups. This is Ratchet's ONLY one. He has it harder than the most of the characters with lvl 1 setups. People who are paying attention aren't exactly easy to get sucked in, and if you miss then BAM! They get a free kill opportunity. **bleep** makes this so different from the other characters super combos??? 

 

How people complain about this over other level 1 setups is beyond me....

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Re: Ratchet exploit that needs looking at.

Dec 13, 2012

Perilion wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

I was playing  with a friend and we kept getting match made with the same guy playing Ratchet, he was an average player overall, decent with Ratchet but the issue is with an exploit he kept using with his Level 1 Ulti.

If Ratchet uses his grab ability to suck the player into his gun, then walk over to a wall, he can fire the player and trap them between the wall and his ulti resulting in a 100% chance of death. 

This may read like this guy just had me beat but, its pretty hard not to get caught in the cone of his grab attack if you are playing a mele character, its near impossible with Raiden for example who has no ranged abilities. We played him 3 or 4 times and each time he used this and got multiple kills.

 

It just strikes me as totally unballanced and more of an exploit than just good tactics as it isn't exactly a difficult to pull off. I dont know if this is the best place to register a complaint / concern so if anyone knows where is best I'll happily repost it somewhere else.

Anyone else experienced this?

 

Cheers!

Perilion.


1) this is not an exploit

2) it is not unbalanced

3)there are many "resulting in 100% chance of death" attacks in this game, and raiden has the most ways to combo into his level one. I really dont think 

4) easy difficulty to pull off does not make it cheating, unfair, or not 'good tactics'. doing such is called a good tactic.

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Dec 13, 2012

Wait, can't you delay the "getting up" phase though? By holding L1?

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