01-29-2013 12:17 PM
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01-29-2013 01:14 PM
Fromundaman wrote:
I'm a BD main as well, so I'll give you some advice on this matchup. That being said, this applies to 1v1 and 2v2, as I don't hate myself quite enough to play BD in FFA.
First off, lose the mentality that Sly is OP; he's not, and that mentality is just going to hurt you since you're thinking he's unbeatable instead of finding ways to beat him.
1) What exactly do you mean by this? Are you refering to the counter or the teleport, because the teleport doesn't stun and is punishable if predicted/baited, and the counter requires you to hit it first.
2) As BD? Barrel loses to a lot of BD's attacks. You can charge it, do any square attack except neutral, air side triangle can work but if he times it right he'll win. You can block and punish, you can grab if he doesn't detonate it right away...
3) Use your circle attacks in level 2 more. He should not be escaping your level 2 if you learn how to hit with it. Unlike characters like Raiden and Jak, Sly doesn't have the mobility to outrun you in level 2 form.
4) Sly doesn't have a roll... Do you mean the electric roll? All of your super armor beats it. I use forward square myself to set up tech chases.
This actually leads to something else: Tech chase the **bleep** out of Sly. He has some pretty limited get up options due to his inability to get up>block or get up>jump airdodge. You can bait the counter by placing ice on top of him after a hard knockdown. If he counters it, block and punish.
This is another matchup where BD pretty much tries to bait Sly into doing something, then punishes it.
Omar has openly come out and said that from their statistics sly, kratos and drake are OP.
I really need to adjust my BD playstyle, I do honestly wreck most matches simply by being incredibly fast, aggressive, mobile and unpredictable. I play alot of FFA and apart from good kratos, sly and drake players I dont have much trouble winning.
I wouldnt say I necessarily hate myself, but I enjoy the challenge.
01-29-2013 01:16 PM - edited 01-29-2013 01:20 PM
Out of interest can someone define tech chasing?
Also a decent guide to fighting game notation? (i.e F3, A3, j.c1 etc)
01-29-2013 01:30 PM
johngie wrote:
Fromundaman, you should play ArchDukeFF. He has a beast of a Sly, and it would be an epic match.
Yeah..but most sly's you run into in game tend to just spam his roll then use his level 1 as soon as they get it.
Can't wait for the nerf.
01-29-2013 02:30 PM - edited 01-29-2013 02:33 PM
Source? I ask just because that's not what Maj seems to say at all.
Digidevil4 wrote:
Fromundaman wrote:
I'm a BD main as well, so I'll give you some advice on this matchup. That being said, this applies to 1v1 and 2v2, as I don't hate myself quite enough to play BD in FFA.
First off, lose the mentality that Sly is OP; he's not, and that mentality is just going to hurt you since you're thinking he's unbeatable instead of finding ways to beat him.
1) What exactly do you mean by this? Are you refering to the counter or the teleport, because the teleport doesn't stun and is punishable if predicted/baited, and the counter requires you to hit it first.
2) As BD? Barrel loses to a lot of BD's attacks. You can charge it, do any square attack except neutral, air side triangle can work but if he times it right he'll win. You can block and punish, you can grab if he doesn't detonate it right away...
3) Use your circle attacks in level 2 more. He should not be escaping your level 2 if you learn how to hit with it. Unlike characters like Raiden and Jak, Sly doesn't have the mobility to outrun you in level 2 form.
4) Sly doesn't have a roll... Do you mean the electric roll? All of your super armor beats it. I use forward square myself to set up tech chases.
This actually leads to something else: Tech chase the **bleep** out of Sly. He has some pretty limited get up options due to his inability to get up>block or get up>jump airdodge. You can bait the counter by placing ice on top of him after a hard knockdown. If he counters it, block and punish.
This is another matchup where BD pretty much tries to bait Sly into doing something, then punishes it.Omar has openly come out and said that from their statistics sly, kratos and drake are OP.
I really need to adjust my BD playstyle, I do honestly wreck most matches simply by being incredibly fast, aggressive, mobile and unpredictable. I play alot of FFA and apart from good kratos, sly and drake players I dont have much trouble winning.
I wouldnt say I necessarily hate myself, but I enjoy the challenge.
Tech chasing is pretty much doing follow ups after a hard knockdown (the name comes from the idea of chasing the direction that they tech roll.). BD has a LOT of tech chase tools and a lot of tools to get people in hard knockdown to initiate a tech chase.
Digidevil4 wrote:Out of interest can someone define tech chasing?
Also a decent guide to fighting game notation? (i.e F3, A3, j.c1 etc)
01-29-2013 02:37 PM
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01-29-2013 02:52 PM
lol does sly cooper have a single bad matchup?