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Nov 26 2012
By: kilburni86 Splicer 36 posts
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People Talking about Tier Lists...

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...are driving me nuts.

 

It's not that a character is "Tier 1," it's that you haven't figured out that character's weaknesses or you don't use dodge rolling enough in the game.

 

Take Kratos for example...he's NOT that hard to beat. His level 1 super is easily countered if you stay up on him, his level 2 is most useful in levels with a lot of vertical space (Dreamscape & Columbia, for example), and his level 3 can be easily dodge-rolled through without dying because all of the movements are so deliberate with a bit of a "recharge" time after they strike.

 

Raiden is ridiculously susceptible to mid & long range attacks, has an easily-countered level 1 and an avoidable level 2. He often gets the first 3 kills on his level 3, but he's avoidable when going for the 2nd set of kills.

 

Sackboy is a joke up close. If you come in on him with anyone who can brawl or slash, he's useless. His cake & jam moves are annoying, but it's easy to stop them if you just go off to fight him 1v1 in the corner. Easy to avoid his lvl 1 and lvl 2. His lvl 3 is pretty good, but again, you can drift away from him in your bubbles, which helps a lot.

 

The character that still gives me the most trouble is Parappa when played by a skilled player. His level 2 is tough to dodge roll if the player anticipates you'll try and he moves so fast on that **bleep** skateboard that you can't really run to the other side of most maps.

 

That's just my $0.02, but I'm sick of seeing people whine about a character being over-powered and saying that they need to be nerfed. It's been a week since the game came out. Give it time and get better at it.

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Nov 26, 2012
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Nov 26, 2012
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Nov 26, 2012

So true. People complaining about Kratos' grappling hook are very amusing though^^

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Nov 26, 2012

Fact of the matter is, it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to have a game like this be 100% balanced and even Omar said something along those lines on stream.. The game is not perfectly balanced, and there is reason to make tier lists even if they are not perfectly accurate at the moment.

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Nov 27, 2012

"So true. People complaining about Kratos' grappling hook are very amusing though^^"

 

      Kratos' grappling hook **bleep** me off to no end during the beta. People spam the crap out of that and the Up+Square to Up+Triangle combo, but like I said in the OP, if you learn to dodge roll, Kratos is easy as hell. Everyone that plays as him uses the grappling hooks or a square move when they're coming in on you, so if you see Kratos approaching, dodge roll towards him. You'll end up behind him and you can attack him from there...hopefully getting him into a combo!

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"Fact of the matter is, it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to have a game like this be 100% balanced and even Omar said something along those lines on stream.. The game is not perfectly balanced, and there is reason to make tier lists even if they are not perfectly accurate at the moment."

This is true, but it's not because of the game's code, it's because the characters play SO differently than one another that it's hard for a person to switch between characters while still building up a lot of skill at the game.

Also, the balance in a game like this comes from the fact that it's essentially a large-scale Rock-Paper-Scissors. As long as every character has a a way to defend any move (which, by my account after 15-20hrs with the game, they do), then there's balance in the game.

The issue is that people haven't learned how to play defensively yet. If you go into every situation charging forward offensively, you're going to lose a hell of a lot of matches. I'm just hoping that people start to learn the game a little better instead of rage quitting a match and whining that "x character" is SO OVER POWERED!
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Nov 27, 2012
About sackboy, I find he plays ok in 1v1. He has options to mix you up or launch you far away.

His level 2 is also EXTREMELY hard to dodge if anyone has even slight idea as how to aim. Just follow the enemy with the coals until you can set it down to where he can't avoid it. Extremely easy and simple.
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