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Re: PSASBR Tier List

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I NEED TO HEAR THE OPINION OF THE PEOPLE! Do you think they were all placed where they belong? Think a character should go up or down a tier? Please comment! Man Wink


Not even close, but the first question is do you want this as a tier list for 1v1, 2v2 or FFA, because all 3 of those are going to be different.




BomB-RideR-14 wrote:

How is Dante a High Risk, Low reward character? If you know how, a single square attack can lead to 150-184 AP generated or an 80 - 120 AP and then Dante can combo into his level 1 super. Remember, Dante's gun attacks don't count towards the AP burst allowing him to exceed 100 AP in a single combo without ending the combo. That, to me, occurs as high reward. How is that low reward?


Didn't know that. Guess that kind of makes up for how ridiculously unsafe he appears to be.

 
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Re: PSASBR Tier List

Dec 18, 2012

That's because Dante's strength is also his weakness.  For Dante strength = weakness along with his slow predictable attacks makes him absolutely terrible.

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Dude5059 wrote:

False. Dante's level 1 is called Overdrive. Dante in MvC has a move by the name of Drive. These moves are very similar. I have played through the DMC series, and he has this move. That I can assure you. If you can't catch a keep-away, then you need to roll or get used to angel Dash. Dante has a few ways to approach and is in no way a low-tier character.


He seems pretty determined to have Dante labled as "low tier." I don't think we can change his mind at this point. To each his own I suppose. I'm dropping out of this debate then. If you want to continue it in "Dante's honor" then I wish you the best of luck lol...

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Am currently reading every comment but until now this are the changes made.... Go to the first page where I edited it and posted a new tier list....

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How bout now? You were right so I edited it... Smiley Happy

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Fat Princess deserves to be much much higher, she has so much potential for combos, opening up he opponent and landing her level 1 combiend with having decent mobility and some special properties on her moves like armor. Her minions really shine at applying pressure, extending combos and even saving her from a combo herself thanks to her bomb.

Big Daddy also needs to be higher, he has the best options available at close range out of any character thanks to his armored square attacks and throw tech traps and options. For example unlike most characters, because Big Daddy is so big whenever an opponent rolls to try and get behind him or rolls on their wake up all he has to do is turn around since his body is so big that he can just grab the opponent like that by simply turning around instead of having to chase after them when they roll behind him like most characters have to do to extend their grab range.

Kratos and Raiden should not be so high up since they do have some pretty bad matchups for them (Big Daddy being one of Raidens worst) They're overused but not all that great, the only thing making Raiden so good just now is his ability to land a super after a throw. Kratos only has one way to combo into his level 1 and his level 2 and 3 are easily dodged providing the connections are good.

 

Ratchet needs to be a bit higher, his throw is one of the best in the game, gives him a free super and he has some matchups that are just plain unfairly in his favor thanks to his sniper rifle and his gadgets to cover the ground along with having one of the best level 1's in the game.

 

Sly should be a bit lower, having no block or dodge button gives him a much much harder time dodging attacks and pressure that other characters can normally just block or roll out the way off and a lot of his attacks have horrible recovery time if they get blocked compared to most characters.

 

Sweet Tooth should be a tad higher, his meter gain is amazing with a low costing level 1, one of the best level 3's in the game and can seriously create some major space control and annoyance tactics using his mine and molotov whilst also having some of the fastest starting close range attacks in the game like his shoulder tackle and shotgun. the combination of mines and his down shotgun attack give him a pretty good throw and trap game also able to really dominate an opponents wake up similar to Big Daddy. 

Sir Daniel is also extremly under rated, he's the only character in the game with the ability to block in the air and has the best anti air supers in the game forcing many opponents to fight on the ground.

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I posted a new one, don't really know if your talking bout that one but Big D. and Sir D. have to b placed there, everyone already knows their "tactics" and how to play against them. I raised Fat P. and Sweet Tooth, lowered Sly a little bit and left Ratchet where he is. Raiden and Kratos have to b that high because of their use in ranked matches and their winning rate, aside from their great AP generation and ease of use.

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enano_javi wrote:

How bout now? You were right so I edited it... Smiley Happy


I would say that Sweet Tooth is both well rounded and flawed at the same time. It is very weird explaining it like that. I would say put Sweet Tooth directly in the middle where the two lines cross. Put Sweet Tooth in the origin (0, 0). I feel like Sweet Tooth is the PERFECT example of a mid tier character for this game. I don't think Sweet Tooth should be any higher as the other guy indicated.

 

A few characters need to be put on the lower end, such as Radec, Nariko, Parappa and Jak.

 

Ratchet and Sackboy should be higher.

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@enano_javi Big Daddy's armored square moves make him a major threat at close range since most characters melee attacks are easily absorbed by them allowing him to either open up for a combo or knock them down for a trap placing his ice puddle down or using his level 1.

There is an interesting setup you can do with his level 1 on a knocked down opponent, he can use his level 1 in one direction before they wake up so that as they wake up they either roll towards it and get hit, stay still and get grabbed by Big Daddies down throw which will swing the opponent behind him far enough to get hit by the super or try to roll away from him and end up getting grabbed anyway because of his larger grab range. This will also work if the opponent is stunned and tries to dodge roll to avoid little sister or block to avoid Big Daddy pushing them towards her, Big Daddies down throw just tosses them into it because of how far they go behind him during the throw animation.

Here's a vid of some simple traps .

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BomB-RideR-14 wrote:

enano_javi wrote:

How bout now? You were right so I edited it... Smiley Happy


I would say that Sweet Tooth is both well rounded and flawed at the same time. It is very weird explaining it like that. I would say put Sweet Tooth directly in the middle where the two lines cross. Put Sweet Tooth in the origin (0, 0). I feel like Sweet Tooth is the PERFECT example of a mid tier character for this game. I don't think Sweet Tooth should be any higher as the other guy indicated.

 

A few characters need to be put on the lower end, such as Radec, Nariko, Parappa and Jak.

 

Ratchet and Sackboy should be higher.


Lower end you mean low tier right? Sackboy kinda belongs there taking other people's opinion. Since the update, I have seen less Sackboy in ranked matches and they have also problems with getting to their lvl 3. In 1 out 3 matches has Sackboy been able to get his lvl 3.

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