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Re: Guys... i broke jak... sorry...

Feb 23, 2013

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he told me it was pointless but idk how being able to 1 hit then grab is pointless especally if someone is way ahead in AP. 


So it's one hit then grab into a kill?

 

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Re: Guys... i broke jak... sorry...

Feb 23, 2013

its just one hit and then grab if you could confirm a super off then that would be seriously Op for how easy it is to do. 

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Re: Guys... i broke jak... sorry...

Feb 23, 2013
Oh, so you found forward square into grab. Or down triangle into grab. Or anything else he has into grab. I didn't test it extensively but this isn't new. There's even a video online of this.

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Re: Guys... i broke jak... sorry...

Feb 23, 2013

if this is only a grab confirm it's really not that great, Jak is still the exact same tier he was at before

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Re: Guys... i broke jak... sorry...

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down+ o can confirm grab actually lines it up almost 100% perfect without needing to time it most the time

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All of Jak's are actually easy to time. Yeah knew about down circle too but that's really the least practical one IMO. I feel it's better to just use down circle and combo from there. Hell, if you got the soft knockdown, you can just do forward square after then grab for more AP.

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This is very confusing. OP is not making much sense and I'm about to sleep.
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Re: Guys... i broke jak... sorry...

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ToMuchMayo wrote:

its just one hit and then grab if you could confirm a super off then that would be seriously Op for how easy it is to do. 


news flash, this game is broken

Omar - "what are you guys doing? Why did you get rid of crash!"
Game devs - "we wanted to put in evil Cole so we had to get rid of everyone else the fans wanted"
Omar- "Oh nice, good idea. I didn't think of that"
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Wow so i went through 3 pages of this only to find out Mayo thinks he broke Jak by grabbing right when the CPU recovers. 

 

Ok PSAS community you guys all need to learn something, WHAT FRAME DATA IS. Just because you caught a guy in a grab before he even seems to have fully recovered, does not mean he didn't. This game, unlike some Capcom games, does not allow us to see the frame data. 

 

Here's what you should know about how it works, when hit the last frame of the animation almost always makes it seem as if you are still unable to do anything, but in reality you are able to react. I'm not really sure how frame reliant this game is, but I can tell you that in every Capcom game knowing how frames work is essential. 

 

This just seems to be someone thinking he is comboing into a grab, when he is clearly just doing a 1 frame link. Opponent recovers, he immediately grabs.

 

@Mayo, set the CPU to double jump in practice mode and you won't be able to do it. I guarantee this 100%. I disproved every single grab related "combo" just by setting the cpu to double jump. 

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I just did it in practice, easily escaped by the practice dummy. Disproven.

 

All you are doing is catching the player / lvl 5 CPU in the grab on the same frame they can do something about it, but the CPU is dumb and chooses not to do anything ALOT and online the lag always makes impossible combos possible so sorry but its not true. 

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