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It isn't decided by the number of hits, it's decided by how much AP you rack up in a single combo.


There we go. It's an AP threshold, not a hit threshold. There were definitely people in the combo vid with more than 5 hits.

 

And that makes sense. If this wasn't there, like I said, people could land 5 or 6 (or more) powerful AP building hits in a row and the person being attacked would just have to sit there and take it. And since the person comboing is rapidly building up meter with no restrictions, he could just combo into a super for a quick instant kill. This system (they're calling it the "infinite avoidance system") prevents that from happening.

 

But of course, doubt it all you want. It's not like a bunch of well-known tournament fighters with WAY more fighting game experience than any of us have are making this game or anything Robot LOL

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No other game has a  combo maximum as low as 5 moves because its stupid and not fun

 

If you have to have an arbitrary rule like that it means the rest of the system isn't very good

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Re: Did you see the Superbot Panel?

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No other game has a  combo maximum as low as 5 moves because its stupid and not fun

 

If you have to have an arbitrary rule like that it means the rest of the system isn't very good


Except that's where you're wrong.

 

Ed Ma (combat designer) said that the system's basically borrowed from Marvel vs Capcom. And it's not five moves; it's tied to AP, not hit count.

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He ment similar in that they look at damage done

Marvel vs Capcom has like 60 hit combos

 

"it's tied to AP, not hit count."

Yes i already said i know that to one of your previous posts

I just ment that non of the combos i saw went any higher than 5 moves, they would always exit into the invisiblilty state on the 5th move or lower

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Re: Did you see the Superbot Panel?

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They did it to balance the combat so u cant get locked against a wall and be pinned in until they get a lvl.3 super

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I know why the system is their, its good to have a system like that

 

 

My point

The thing im anoyed about

Is that the move limit is so low <--(thing i'm anoyed about)

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Dormin000 wrote:

He ment similar in that they look at damage done

Marvel vs Capcom has like 60 hit combos

 

"it's tied to AP, not hit count."

Yes i already said i know that to one of your previous posts

I just ment that non of the combos i saw went any higher than 5 moves, they would always exit into the invisiblilty state on the 5th move or lower


Again, that's wrong. A few of the characters (Toro, for example) had more than just five moves within their combos. I'm not sure how you're defining "moves," but many of the combos were more than just 5 hits. They would have to be weaker hits to prevent AP building abuse, obviously, but they were still more than 5.

 

And no, Ed was referring specifically to the Infinite avoidance.  if you've played MvC, you know that there's a very formulaic process to building up large combos. You can't just keep button mashing; you need to use super moves to extend your combos. It's called the "Magic Series" in MvC. Look it up if you're not familiar.

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Yeah I meant moves

Like the bicycle kick does like 7 hits, but it's 1 move

 

"And no, if you've played MvC, you know that there's a very formulaic process to building up large combos. You can't just keep button mashing; you need to use super moves to extend your combos."

 

What does the way the combos done have to do with anything. You admit MvC has long comobs? Okey

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Yeah I meant moves

Like the bicycle kick does like 7 hits, but it's 1 move


Well in that case I don't know what you're complaining about. If you have a problem with this game, with its AP system, not letting you do a 35 hit combo, maybe it's a good thing that you're not one of the game's combat designers.

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what about an 8 move combo or even a 6 move combo

Why is this arbitrary rule here limiting players

 

And why are you defending the madness that is a 5 move maximum limit

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