Dante vs. Jak may be the worst matchup of all time
Wait, no, if I don't correct myself Strife will post that video of Radec vs. Sly to prove me wrong-- Jak vs. Dante can be the second worst.
I felt bad for Dante, but also didn't want to lose. He definitely needs something against more agile characters. Reading suggestions from the thread, a brief invincibilty during a neutral angel dash may be helpful.
That sounds RIDICULOUSLY OP (For that move. It still wouldn't fix one of Dante's main problems). You literally could not stop his approach if you were to change this other than with a super. You just gave him a move with ridiculous mobility that can be canceled into either attacks or nothing at all, with super armor. You may even be able to empty cancel through attacks if you have ridiculous timing to punish! (Although considering how hard that would probably be to pull off, I don't actually mind that too much, though it would make counter redundant.) The only way to make that mildly balanced is to make it very very low super armor like BD's air charge, but in that case it's still going to lose to most projectiles.
Anyone else think maybe adding super armor to Dantes dash might not be such a bad thing?
After watching asis vs pb mal, I had a decent epiphany. Dante has literally no way to beat someone who has a ranged attack and is faster than himself, like Cole. I main Cole, 999 and I find him to be a skilful character, however in the matchup vs Dante, Dante was at the mercy of Cole, outright, because of Coles speed and ranged initiates.
Dante needs something not much, but something. he has no safe way to approach and this might be something to make him a safer approach character rather than a punisher of mistskes. That's not Dante in my eyes, he should be pushing the pace all game, but he can't, its too unsafe. He has no ranged attacks, he needs this sort of minor boost to compete on an even level imo.
I agree that Dante needs some way to deal with ranged characters. Other close quarter characters in PSASBR (like Heihachi, Raiden, Kratos, Nariko and Parappa) at least have some way of dealing with zoning.
For example, they might have a ranged attack (Heihachi's trophy throw or beach ball, Nariko's disk or Cannon, Kratos' Bow) or an attack that quickly closes distance (Heihachi's wave-dashing, Parappa's Air Side Triangle, or Raiden's....everything). And if someone's trying to zone Parappa he could just pull out his Boom box and farm AP, forcing his opponent to come to him!
But Dante...he really has close to no options. Maybe increasing the range & speed of his pistols (kind of like Fox's laser pistol from Smash) could help. Fox is a speedy melee character, similar to Dante. But if someone tries to zone him he has plenty of options for defending himself (reflector, laser pistol). Dante does not. Heck Dante's counter can't even deal with projectiles like Nariko's, Kratos', or Sly's can.