12-09-2012 06:55 AM
12-09-2012 07:29 AM
In the context of your explanations ur teiring is correct.
However if you take more factors into account than AP gain and supers it would make more sense.
Big daddy is in my oppinion the worst character.
Jak can be played to devastating effect, his low AP gain is a side-effect of this. His level 3 trumps all similar ones in each speed and range.
Sir Dan builds AP very fast and has super simple Super setups.
and ofc Kratos belongs in S teir because, lets face it... he builds AP fasts and his supers kick **bleep**.
12-09-2012 12:12 PM - edited 12-09-2012 12:12 PM
Well, just for Fat Princess to have avoided C Tier makes this the most accurate list so far. Its clearly well thought out, but at the same time very accessible for all players to understand.
I agree with most placements, though the big one I don't is with Raiden in his own top tier, but thats just me personally, and my reasons why are probably not relevant - I've faced a LOT of Raiden players, and one expert Raiden player in particular and feel I have an insight into that character's faults/moves that theres some element of predictability with him that I don't have with others. Not to mention I main Fat Princess and I think her moveset makes for a good, fair match up whereas when playing as say Sir Daniel, the pressure is most definitely on!
I really enjoyed your tier explanation as well, all tier lists should come with this, it actually made this worth reading.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! I was hesitant to put Raiden in his own tier because visually it would make him look outstandingly better than everyone else when that isn't the case. Raiden naturally doesn't suffer from the few weaknesses the other A tier characters have and I feel it wouldn't be right to fit him in A.
(Also yeah, nearly every tier list I've seen FP has been at the bottom which makes absolutely no sense to me)
Good list but Good Cole should be A Tier
Why do you think that?
I'd say bump Toro up to A, dude has some really really easy loops and combos and has a tool for every situation be it 1v1, FFA or 2v2. He takes a lot to learn (when to do his combos and whatnot anyway) but the way I stomp around with him it would pain me to see him at B :v
I do know I've beaten your Fat Princess a few times in 2v2 though! (Though your Jak got you guys the winning point... humph)
I agree that Toro has a pretty big learning curve and is a force to be reckoned with in the right hands. In an FFA setting he can still do work, but his supers are somewhat predictable and not as easy to get to compared to the likes of Kratos or Raiden. I could see Toro rising in B but I don't see him hitting A too soon.
(I've also never played with a Jak before??)
12-09-2012 12:21 PM
Sly A tier? Ha. He needs to be in S tier with Raiden. Sly has way too many options. The fact that you can use your level one while invisible and the fact that you cant hit him out of it, just proves how broken he is. Along with that when he is invisible he is nearly impossible to see because there are so many dark stages! And since your so focused on your own character you wont see him coming.
12-09-2012 12:25 PM
Sir Dan is better than "D tier" I main him; he's amazing if you know how to use him. Yesterday on FFA I got 9 kills and 1 death with Sir Dan.
I wanted to put Sir Dan higher, I truly did because he is one of my favorites. Unfortunately a large chunk of his moves don't cater to being in the middle of a 4 way brawl. His level 1 combo is nice but he can easily be interrupted by someone else during it. His level 2 is quite easy to dodge and I've seen near 0 amounts of his level 3, but I don't see it getting anymore than 5 kills at it's extreme best.
Kratos needs to be S tier, Raiden seems more fair in a fight than him.
Dude's a beast.
I agree that Kratos is quite the powerhouse. His attacks scream domination and the simplest square masher can be a rough to fight against. So what's holding him back? His supers. They aren't actually THAT great. His level 1 is very situational, easy to interrupt and has no confirm. His level 2 is pretty good and I feel that is what is really holding him up. His level 3 is just good, it has the potential to get 6+ kills but on average I'll see it get 3, maybe 4.
Raiden has an ever so slightly harder time gaining AP than Kratos, but all of his supers are great.
12-09-2012 12:28 PM
12-09-2012 01:18 PM
12-09-2012 01:37 PM
S Tier: Raiden
A Tier: Sly Cooper, Nathan Drake, Kratos, Fat Princess
B Tier: Evil Cole MacGrath, Parappa, Ratchet and Clank, Cole MacGrath, Big Daddy, Toro, Colonel Radec, Heihachi Mishima
C Tier: Nariko, Sweet Tooth
D Tier: Dante, Spike
F Tier: Jak and Daxter, Sir Daniel Fortesque
Now, this tier list makes more sense. Also, Dante is an absolutely terrible character without FBC.