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Re: Big future patch coming soon

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@Fromundaman: Maybe 'crumple' wasn't the right term. That's when they slowly collapse face first down, right? What I meant was when you get knocked back off your feet, but quickly stand back up automatically, like a kind of semi-knockdown or whatever it's called (like Jak's down-circle, to name one off the top of my head). What's the term for that? Because I know for a fact that Raiden's dive kick move has kill-confirmed me many, many times in the past as a result of that. It was one of the moves players absolutely loved to spam, because you could practically confirm from anywhere on screen. It doesn't do the same thing anymore; instead, it slams the opponent off the ground, into the air (a 'ground juggle', right?).
I think you're talking about the half circle kick thing, which is his down triangle I believe, not his divekick. The divekick bounces them off the ground and always has.

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OK, I feel like I'm going crazy. You are right about that, but maybe I was thinking of his air forward-circle attack instead, which does do what I described. I don't know; my memory must really fail me right now, because I swear on everything I believe in that in Ranked matches I used to get kill-confirmed by what I used to describe as a "dart kick" (because it "darts in from halfway across the screen" in the air) ALL THE TIME, (whether it resulted in crumple/'semi-knockback' state, whatever) and I remember thinking it was so freaking cheap! Do I really misremember it that badly?... I'm the last person that wants to start a stupid argument on the Internet about what an attack USED TO DO, but that single attack practically gave me nightmares! Smiley Happy ...Whatever, at least whatever it was I thought I remembered doesn't happen anymore, so I should still be happy right? Smiley Happy
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Yeah side circle does fit your description actually, but it's not a kick. That being said I don't think they changed it, but there is a mechanic where if you get hit by two of those types of moves in a row you get put flat on the ground into hard knockdown. If you're playing FFA or 2v2 it's possible you just got hit by 2 of those kind of moves at the same time?

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Yeah, I don't know; it's possible that what kept happening without me realizing it, as it was during FFA matches. I find it weird though that I noticed yesterday that a lot of players still continue to abuse that move; maybe just because it's a good combo starter... Anyway, sorry to all for hijacking this thread! I was just really confused there!
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Oh no problem, and yeah, it's a very good combo starter that a lot of the more casual players don't really know how to punish.

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BDurk15 wrote:
@Fromundaman: Maybe 'crumple' wasn't the right term. That's when they slowly collapse face first down, right? What I meant was when you get knocked back off your feet, but quickly stand back up automatically, like a kind of semi-knockdown or whatever it's called (like Jak's down-circle, to name one off the top of my head). What's the term for that? Because I know for a fact that Raiden's dive kick move has kill-confirmed me many, many times in the past as a result of that. It was one of the moves players absolutely loved to spam, because you could practically confirm from anywhere on screen. It doesn't do the same thing anymore; instead, it slams the opponent off the ground, into the air (a 'ground juggle', right?).

You are right. They get thrown into the air. It's still possible to get killed if you dont double jump out of the way while in the air though.

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