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He's not lol
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Re: Asis vs Pb_Mal - The Grudge Match

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"My strat was to zone dante... Its a shame some of you dont know what that means."

 

This is why people don't like you, Asis. You come off as a jerk.

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So this post is going to be huge because I just saw this thread and have things to say to multiple people:





KiDMachTwo wrote:
Okay, so, me taking ten minutes, TEN MINUTES, learning 4 ap burst combos, and being able to pull them off flawlessly, doesn't mean the character takes no skill? Why don't you show me some ap bursts with Toro, big daddy, heihachi, and sir Dan... Those characters take skill. Dante does not.

To be fair, I can do AP bursts with Toro and I've played him all of 1 time (And in a real match no less), and BD's AP bursts aren't hard either (His reset combos are way better though IMO).



That being said if you got canceling down consistently in 10 minutes, well dayum! I'm impressed. I wouldn't call Dante a noob character though. All of the low tier characters take a lot of skill to win with, and to be honest the high tiers do too. I can't really think of any character that you can play mindlessly and win with at a high level.



On a side note, I'd like to know if there are any high level Dante players here, what's his tech chase and out-of-grab options look like? Also I would love to play you guys so I can finally stop assuming that Dante is just a terrible character.


Asis_aka_Talent wrote:

KMart0002 wrote:
I wish Radec was more viable in 1v1, I would happily play casual matches with skilled people like Asis, pb and such. But the fact that a lot of them use KC, cripples any chance of me doing anything :/ if I even attempted, I'd be destroyed cause Radec doesnt have an easy KC. I guess that's why I picked up Evil Cole, but it still pains me that Radec ain't good in 1v1, and people would probably insult me for using him lol. Good match though, it was intense and awesome :smileyhappy:

he has a very good KC bro that works on block... Short hop down triangle to level one if it hits you get a free kill if they block its up to them to roll towards you out of block stun but it does work trust me I have beatin some raidens using this


You're going to have to show me this. I can't picture this actually working. Down triangle is the grenade launcher right? Or is it the flamethrower?





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xFeyBlade wrote:
I think he's an idiot for not using empty cancels. There's no reason to not use your options. he got exposed.


 

 

He chose not to use them, I'd say he thought of not using them as a trade off for Cole not using his kill confirms. It would have been awfully wierd if he used the empty cancel but cole wasn't allowed to use any kill confirms.


He actually refuses to use them on concept and when he loses he tends to say it's because others used kill confirms, only giving real respect to people who don't. This is why they fought with the no KC rule.




Asis_aka_Talent wrote:

TwistedAvenger wrote:
It was a good match very one sided in your favor Asis, I think you could have easily hit your level 3 a second time before he hit his. The combos he did (I only saw him use 2 the whole match) but you has him on the defensive so much plus played really good defense yourself barely allowed him to do them.

thanks bro and that is what i was telling him... He thought he would be able to hit me whenever he wanted and get like 5 combos for his level 3... I warned him way ahead of time that good players dont get hit that easy yet he thought that he would be fine by taking away my Kill confirms yet he died every single time i used meter anyway lol he prob thought I couldnt kill without them... or that he could get his level 3 faster than me but i got a lvl 3 and 2 lvl 2s before he got 1 lvl 3 lol simply put he got beat up


Actually, not going to lie, I felt you played really carelessly for a while. I was surprised you got hit as much as you did. Honestly it looked like you were trolling to me, but I could be wrong.




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@Tmxelmo
I'm going to assume you're talking to me.
I never said it wasn;t fair I said it was a BAD matchup. You can overcome a bad matchup but it takes a lot of extra work on your part. Unfair is playing with one less stock unintentionally. Maining Nariko, I have a lot of bad matchups but I still win 75.38609% of the time in 1v1. Do I think i'm the best? No, but i'm one of the best I know/seen that's why I made a thread to get to know all of the other Nariko's and play them. Did you do that? To call yourself the best Drake you should play other Drake's. Don't go around show boating then play a Drake and get bodied 0-3 in 1v1. Doesn't matter if you beat good Raidens and Sackboys. If you can't beat that Drake that just owned your **bleep** you AREN'T the best Drake. PERIOD. You **bleep** **bleep**.

@Asis
Thanks for clearing that up. I know pb, he prides himself on not using KC's and that's cool but he's not going to get that far if everyone else KC's the first chance they get. Now I see where all the animosity came from. Well, good game none the less. I should be getting better net soon so maybe we can start playing again. Know any good Narikos?


I actually completely disagree with this. The ditto is just one of 20 different matchups your character can play. Being good at the ditto doesn't make you the best if you're bad at every other matchup. This is why I think consistent tournament results speak louder than anything else.



Asis_aka_Talent wrote:

RodBow15 wrote:
Tsukyome, eh? I need to message him. I've been wanting to play the guy that was #1 on the leaderboard with Nariko but he never responds to me.

I've played him im telling you that other guy i mentioned is better.  The guy ranked #1 is great at zoning in ffa and getting level 3.  But 1v1 he isnt much to worry about.  But like i said tsu is great all around and very helpful


EXTREMELY opinionated though... Like holy **bleep** don't bother trying to debate/disagree with him on anything ever.



KiDMachTwo wrote:
I kinda wanna 1v1 mal with my big daddy.

Haha, play me first. I'll show you some ridiculous tactics that I already know from experience he (And many others in fact) can't seem to beat. Tech chase for life!



RodBow15 wrote:
@KiD
I've beaten pb quite a few times with Nariko. Back when this first came out I lost to Froundman (Big Daddy user) like 3-5 times. We played recently and I won 2 out of 2 matches and then my net went haywire. If you play anything like Froundman (sp?) you should have some good matches, if that makes sense.

You really surprised me last time we played. I want some rematches. I feel I need to relearn that matchup. I was getting hit by things that I felt like I should know not to get hit by (Not an insult. You were placing them really really well but I felt like I should have been knowledgeable enough to look out for.).

 
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Come off as a jerk for speaking the truth? Asis takes this game seriously like how I take UMvC3/SSF4 seriously. Zoning is a common term in fighting games and most casual players(which this game is full of) don't know that. They refer to it as "spamming"
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Re: Asis vs Pb_Mal - The Grudge Match

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It's silly to not use one of your character's best tools. Play to win.
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I just saw the beginning of it, but I like the strategy u used asis, thats why ive kinda be straying away from him and now I mostly play spike, parappa, and jak. For me, dante is not a consistent character because I find it too easy for him to be shut down
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Asis I wanna fight u! Even if I get wrecked ill put it on youtube to show either a good match or a beating from me or u
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Good watch - looks like Asis knows what he's doing with Cole. I'm curious to know which charecter you're weakest with ?

Still hate the term 'exposé' though...considering its just a game.
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Who said GCole takes no skill?? Use him then. Better yet I'll ditto you.
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Gcole is hard af to use imo... hes got real good distance , and he's crazy good at zoning in.
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