I am by no means a bad Sackboy player, I think BlazedCarbon, Le_Froglet, and ChanceKnowsBest can vouch for my skills. I however had to hit the training room to get to know him better. He can not win matches anymore by just spamming and his forward triangle-electric pad combo, you actually have to think now. I played a match after learning him more and managed to get his level 2 on Stowaways before the stage transformed. Yeah I am still getting use to is nerf, but I learned a lot of things about him after it, heck look at my accomplishments, don't believe me add me, but I won't be on till later on in the week.
Basically what I am saying is while Sackboy isn't noob friendly anymore does not mean he is useless, you just need pratice with him to win at all. So go hit those pratice rooms up. If you have any questions feel free to add me.
*Btw people have been talking how his forward triangle combo does not work anymore. I can confirm this as BS, the timing is more tighter for some reason and can be used on any characters.
Now as for ranked matches I was still doing really good for 10-15 matches against Kratos, Raiden, and Slys, then I ran into a Sly Cooper who only went after me and literally countered everything I did, and when I caught on to his strategy, he still kept winning off of abusing the other players, he was like the old Sackboy, so that lowered me by a lot because I ran into him every single match,then I finally went to pratice mode for hours and now I feel better than ever. He isn't broken, just much harder to win with.
I would stick to level 1s and 2s if you fight skilled players, and when you are sure you can get a level 3 go for it.
Thanks for the reply!
Just curious, say in theory Sackboy still combo'd identically as he did before but had all the same post-patch nerfs:
- His level 1 costs the same as raidens/sly's/Kratos yet in a timed FFA is much harder to land, gain AP for (except for Sly possibly), and typically nets 1 kill max, rarely 2. Raiden, sly and Kratos usually get 2 kills minimum. How can you compete with that in ranked FFA?
- When you say you went to practice mode for 2 hrs, what did that look like for you? Was it just vs 1 computer on Dojo nd practicing combos? Could use some tips here 
chunky_shtew wrote:Thanks for the reply!
Just curious, say in theory Sackboy still combo'd identically as he did before but had all the same post-patch nerfs:
- His level 1 costs the same as raidens/sly's/Kratos yet in a timed FFA is much harder to land, gain AP for (except for Sly possibly), and typically nets 1 kill max, rarely 2. Raiden, sly and Kratos usually get 2 kills minimum. How can you compete with that in ranked FFA?
- When you say you went to practice mode for 2 hrs, what did that look like for you? Was it just vs 1 computer on Dojo nd practicing combos? Could use some tips here
Well usually there is a Kratos, Dante, Raiden, or anyone doing long combos, you can walk up to them and use your level 1. The electric panel still sets up though, but it can be safe to hit side triangle first before doing the electric panel, but I recommend doing a short hop first since his side triangle into electric panel is easier to do in the air. A lot of people grab Sackboy now, so it has gotten less safe to go for his level 3. As for people like Raiden and Kratos, I see more people go for Kratos's level 2 now, and I can usually predict when Raiden is going to try using his level 1, so I always place a trap around and it usually stops them or I use his bounce pad shield or jump pad and get them away. Sly level 1 however is pretty dang tough to deal with, and I am still working on that.
I was mostly praticing combos, like learning more ap combos as well as learning how his traps can be used and teleporter in attacks. I also 1v1 a few highest level AIs, like Drake, Kratos, and Sackboy himself in stages like the Pratice stages and Dojo. I generally had no trouble against any of them, Drake did get me once, but generally they aren't as much of a threat as they use to be.
Sackboy still isn't meant to be in the middle of the action, and he can't fight Raiden up close in a square fight, so you have to use traps and bait them over to you. Blocking is essential to using him, and then you can use an up grab combo, which even though it generates less ap than some of his other ap burst, it is pratical and reduces you opponents super meter by 10%. I would say do more quick matches and when you feel confident go to rank matches.
