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Re: 1 Word Response: Will This Patch Hurt or Help?

Mar 16, 2013

Hurts all characters. Destroys competitive metagame.

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Re: 1 Word Response: Will This Patch Hurt or Help?

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Nerfing most of the cast when most characters are not flat out strong enough as it can only hurt the game.


Drake got nerfed - justifiably, FP got slightly nerfed - justifiably, Kat got nerfed - Justifiably, Sweet Tooth got nerfed - very very slightly so that it is almost indiscernible, Sackboy got nerfed - arguable, EC got nerfed - warranted.. , Sly got nerfed, Kratos got nerfed. Most of the characters that received nerfs were nerfed slightly at best, the only characters that got nerfed hard was Drake and Sackboy, every other character got nerfed slightly if they were nerfed. The overall system tweaks for blocking or rolling from landing is 5 frames...that's 0.0833 seconds...faster than any human can react with online latency. They removed all the blatant confirms and buffed sir dan, buffed Dante and made other system tweaks. The patch will be a huge help and if anything make the distinction between casuals and skilled players even more evident.

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The problem is all those characters (Kratos, FP, EC, ect.) got nerfed HARD, while the lower characters likeHachi, Emmett, Toro who needed MORE options don't get anything notable.  Matchups are going to be more linear since most high/top characters are around highish-mid tier now, which is just plain bad when considering it's the high tiers (Nariko, Good Cole, Ratchet) that are characters with good options, mixups, and overall are just good enough to feel like competitive diverse, non linear characters in all modes.


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Re: 1 Word Response: Will This Patch Hurt or Help?

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dabuz18 wrote:

The problem is all those characters (Kratos, FP, EC, ect.) got nerfed HARD, while the lower characters likeHachi, Emmett, Toro who needed MORE options don't get anything notable.  Matchups are going to be more linear since most high/top characters are around highish-mid tier now, which is just plain bad when considering it's the high tiers (Nariko, Good Cole, Ratchet) that are characters with good options, mixups, and overall are just good enough to feel like competitive diverse, non linear characters in all modes.


Disagree dabuz, Fat Princess barely got touched at all. All they did was make her knights come out slower and change her landing animation if she summons assists in the air, most of her nerfs were negligible at best and just made her go from brain dead to taking slightly more skill to use.

 

 

Kratos barely got touched - they nerfed him so that people could actually punish his square combos if they blocked it and tweaked 1 move from his moveset to gain 20AP less, he is pretty much unchanged. They also made general changes to anyone so that if they block a move they aren't stuck in place but moved back slightly making block punishes slightly more difficult but escaping from combos with far ranges easier...ie. kratos' combos for example.

 

Evil Cole - they nerfed the super armor on EC's giga punch and pushed the frames on startup back by 4 meaning that in all the punch will occur in 1/6th of a second...still too fast for most people to anticipate and counter act and it is still a verigiable confirm if landed. If anything it helps EC more due to the restrictions made upon blocking upon landing.. They also removed his up grab confirm and buffed his level 2. They also increased the hit box on his neutral triangle and decreased the overload time. Evil Cole is still pretty much unchanged and outside of the nerfs to his punch and throw he was buffed NOT nerfed.

 

 

 

The biggest nerfs went to sackboy, Drake and Sly. Sackboy has less stage control because his cakes now disappear after 5 seconds and his trap doesn't come out mid combo. They also nerfed his bounce pad so that it disappears after 0.3 seconds

 

 

 

The high tier characters are still high tier they only take slightly more skill to use and it helps in balancing, the nerfs are being grossy overstated

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Re: 1 Word Response: Will This Patch Hurt or Help?

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Mar 16, 2013
Not exactly one word answers but in retrospect that probably would have never happened. Interesting discussions. I think we can all agree that things will get very interesting when the patch hits this Tuesday.
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Re: 1 Word Response: Will This Patch Hurt or Help?

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crashbfan23 wrote:

1- Hurts all characters. 2- Destroys competitive metagame.


1 - Just about.

 

2 - Changes it significantly, doesn't destroy it nessesarily

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