120 Hz vs. 60 Hz LCD TV HELP!!!!

dpm86 · ‎12-19-2008

Hello to whom it may concern,

As it would have it Christmas is right around the corner and I already know what I got for Christmas. My mother recently got me the PS3 Slim for the present. Now the problem is that because it's all new and shiny, I want a great tv to go with it to make it even more enjoyable. In my research to find a tv to provide my needs all I keep getting is two sides. I understand for the most part its a matter of preference for the tvs. The thing that keeps bothering me is that I know I want to get a 40" LCD screen. The only thing preventing me from buying one is I have no clue as to what Hz will really bring out my gaming. Don't worry I haven't forgetton about the output, I would never buy less then 1080p. So that is not even a factor. Keep in mind the tv will be used for Blue-Rays and serious gaming. Does anyone have any experience between the two Hz (120 Hz vs. 60 Hz)? I know there is higher Hz, but my wallet is not that deep. I don't care for brand, I'm only buying the Sony Braiva ones. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Don

K3nsh1n · ‎03-28-2007

I would suggest going to best buy or somewhere and looking at both becuase its all about personal prefernce, i prefer 120hz (which is known as like motion flow etc) but i know alot of people who don't care for the look of 120, playing alot of games and watching alot of movies in 120hz (motion flow etc) leave ghosting

its just personal prefernce.. you may love it or hate it

dpm86 · ‎12-19-2008

When you say ghosting what does that mean excatly?

jarocc74 · ‎08-18-2009

I have a sony Bravia 46" LCD model is KDL-46S4100 this tv is 60hz refresh 60 times per second. let me tell you if it's 60hz or 120hz when it comes to looking at blu ray movies and the ps3 gameing it dosen't get any better than this tv you may get alot of feed back on the 60hz vs 120 but with this model it doesn't get any better i've had sony,JVC,samsung,friend with panisonic.This tv is excellent picture quality.But you have to make your on decision this is an 2008 model 2009 model is KDL-46S5100 but I read some where that they were having problems with this model and sony is aware I dont know if they've corrected the problem or not.

joostin · ‎11-05-2007

Ghosting will only happen if you have a high refresh rate. ie. anything 8ms or higher will start to leave ghosting. The HZ alone will only fix half the problem. 120Hz means 120 frames per scond are displayed, meaning you need a min. response time of 8.3ms. That will still affect the picture with blurring, so better 120Hz tvs will double that up and have a response time of 4ms or lower. This will make motion blur/ghosting non-existent) If you have an 8ms response time and a 60hz Tv you will be on the edge of acceptable, most cheap 60Hz will be 16ms response time which sucks.

So if you want a good TV get a

60Hz w/ 8ms response

120Hz w/ 8ms Response

120Hz w/ 4ms or less response time (best choice)

240Hz w/ 2ms or less response time (expensive)

Signature removed by Admin due to advertising.

vw_fetish · ‎06-25-2009

Don't let the whole 120Hz thing be the deciding factor on your TV. Just make sure you pick a TV that suites your needs and has a quality panel.

The motion-flow features of some of the newer TVs tend to make shows and movies look like they were filmed with a home camcorder. Most of the time, it's way too smooth and fluid. It works well for sports, but that's about it.

If you find a TV with this technology, then great (it can be disabled). But don't rest your decision on this alone.

Hawleyw00d_ · ‎11-05-2009

I hope this will clear up some confusion in this thread about FPS and Refresh rate(Htz).

If you have a TV with a 120hz refresh rate that is 1080p/24 compatible (1920 pixels across the screen vs 1080 pixels down the screen, with a 24 frame per second rate). The TV ends up displaying 24 separate frames every second, but repeats each frame according to the refresh rate of the TV. In the case of 120hz each frame would be displayed 5 times within each 24th of a second.

In other words, even with higher refresh rates, there are still only 24 separate frames displayed every second, but they may need to be displayed multiple times, depending on the refresh rate.

To display 24 frames per second on a TV with a 120hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 5 times every 24th of a second.

To display 24 frames per second on a TV with a 72hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 3 times every 24th of a second.

To display 30 frames per second on a TV with a 60 hz refresh rate, each frame is repeated 2 times every 30th of a second.

To display 25 frames per second on a TV with a 50 hz refresh rate (PAL Countries), each frame is repeated 2 times every 25th of a second.

To display 25 frames per second on a TV with a 100 hz refresh rate (PAL Countries), each frame is repeated 4 times every 25th of a second.

kornchild2002 · ‎03-15-2005

vw_fetish wrote:
Don't let the whole 120Hz thing be the deciding factor on your TV. Just make sure you pick a TV that suites your needs and has a quality panel.

The only issue with that is future Blu-ray 3D releases will require at least a 120Hz HDTV. I definitely wouldn't purchase a 60Hz HDTV now knowing that Blu-ray 3D has been finalized and is on the verge of coming out. That and 120Hz HDTVs have become very affordable. Best Buy was selling a 32" 1080p (that resolution is too high for that size of a panel but this seems to be the norm now) Philips/Sony/Samsung (couldn't remember the name) LCD HDTV that was 120Hz for less than $550. Sure, it wasn't the same price as a Vizio LCD HDTV at Walmart but the extra ~$100 was well worth it knowing that the HDTV would have native compatibility with future digital 3D releases.

Shaitan001 · ‎10-07-2009

I had the whole 120Hz vs. 60Hz. dilemma myself recently. I wanted to save money and get a larger 60Hz television as I figured my old Sony 50" LCD Projection looks great and I bought it during a time when you didn't hear about Hz. Well I opted for the 120Hz 32" XBR9 and I have to say I do not regret my decision. To make a long story short, I would get a 120Hz television, but that is just my 2 cents.

The-Undead-One · ‎12-11-2008

actualy for bluray there motionflow ( sony term) that calculate 4 image between each frame ... boosting the frame rate to a true 120fps which look really fluid .. i cant watch bluray at the true 24fps ... its laggy and uncomfortable to my eyes