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If you're in the market for an mp3 player similar to the nano, i'd suggest a Sansa 4gb. Slightly thicker than the nano, it cost less and plays vieos which i'm not sure if the nano does. Anyway, i've been using it for a while and i like it a lot...
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Okay now no bashing anybody now. I don't want this to get locked, because Sauron started a flame war. ThanksSmiley Wink



Actually, you're the one that started with the personal attacks and the "Flaming" Not me. I'm the one who gave honest advice.
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Be prepared to get pounced on by fanboy Sauron


Lol great prediction

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Hofman101 wrote:


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The MicroPhoto is a reliable and inexpensive player for what it costs, but the screen is an OLED screen and can't be seen outside. It's very dim. I don't mind iPods, but I've had bad experiences with them in the sense that they have been unreliable. I've never tried the Gigabeat, so I can't tell you anything about it. If you want a reliable, inexpensive player, go with the MicroPhoto. If you want the 30GB capacity and don't mind taking the risk, go with an iPod. Personally, I LOVE my Creative Zen Vision W, but that isn't on what you're looking at.

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My iPod mini is almost 2 years old now and the battery life is still just as good as the day I bought it. Infact, if not the natural discoloration of the click wheel caused by two years of heavy use and oils from my fingers building up, you could easily mistake it (appearance and performance) for a brand new iPod mini. Apple released statistics showing that the iPod actually has the lowest failure rate of all major mass produced electronics.
 
OP: For the Zune, forget it. The sales of the Zune are falling by the day. The DRM is absolutely insane and you can't use the device as an external hard drive unless you hack it. As much as 60% of the music you get from the Zune Marketplace will be restricted from being "squirted", as Steve "I'm Going To Eat Your Children" Balmer put it, to other Zune players. The Zune is nothing but a DRM machine. Plus the screen is FUBAR'ed because it has a 4:3 pixel aspect ratio, but its stretched out to 16:9 so the video looks distorted and stretched.
 
The Toshiba Gigabeat S.... it's not selling well either. Not even single digit marketshare. Toshiba has a knack for literally dropping products from their line and support for them. Just go read user experiences with Toshiba notebook PCs. THey've had several lines that were problematic that they simply dropped and refused to honor warranties for.
 
The iPod is your best bet. It has the lowest failure rate and you've already got an iTunes library setup. Plus, in all honesty, buying anything besides an iPod is a DOWNGRADE from your nano. You don't trade in the Porsche for the Ford Pinto, you know?


Sorry. I can't hear you over the fanboyism.


"Fanboyism"? Making up words now? Fine, if you want to ignore HONEST advice, then you're SOL and you can deal with any POS you end up buying. You can't prove anything I said wrong. You can't prove it to be "fanboyism", because EVERY single thing I said in this thread and your other thread is backed up by hardcore facts that you can find by simply going to the sources I mentioned.
 
Fanboy? Hardly. I spoke the truth. Before you go making up words, check the facts. But if you want to buy some POS and downgrade, then be my guest. I'll be the first on to post in your thread when you're having problems with whatever non-iPod you buy and laugh at you and say "I told you so".  


Okay, I just DONT want to hear you trying to make MY decision for me. I give you credit for the effort, but it's pointless if you favour one brand and say everything bad about all of the other brands. Please, just stop trying to convince everyone Apple is the best, they may be in your opinion, but Microsoft, Creative and other brands have to get some sales as well.


As I said, everything I've said is backed up by facts. All you have to do is either go to the Creative site and see the people who are having problems, check the news sites for sales figures and the DRM issues, check the notebook/laptop forums for Toshiba's issues, etc. I'm not trying to convince anyone, just telling the truth.
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Zune FTW! The Zune is so much better than the ipod. The screen is way bigger and it has wifi support and you can share music. it rocks. all of my friends have it and we share music and photos and its great on the bus cause you can do it across the whole thing and stuff LOL wooooootooooohhoooohyaaaa GO MICROSOFT YOU ROCK AND SO DOES YOUR OS!!!!!!! Smiley Very HappySmiley Very HappySmiley Very HappySmiley Very Happy

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brush fire wrote:


wrote:


Hofman101 wrote:


wrote:


brush fire wrote:
The MicroPhoto is a reliable and inexpensive player for what it costs, but the screen is an OLED screen and can't be seen outside. It's very dim. I don't mind iPods, but I've had bad experiences with them in the sense that they have been unreliable. I've never tried the Gigabeat, so I can't tell you anything about it. If you want a reliable, inexpensive player, go with the MicroPhoto. If you want the 30GB capacity and don't mind taking the risk, go with an iPod. Personally, I LOVE my Creative Zen Vision W, but that isn't on what you're looking at.

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My iPod mini is almost 2 years old now and the battery life is still just as good as the day I bought it. Infact, if not the natural discoloration of the click wheel caused by two years of heavy use and oils from my fingers building up, you could easily mistake it (appearance and performance) for a brand new iPod mini. Apple released statistics showing that the iPod actually has the lowest failure rate of all major mass produced electronics.
OP: For the Zune, forget it. The sales of the Zune are falling by the day. The DRM is absolutely insane and you can't use the device as an external hard drive unless you hack it. As much as 60% of the music you get from the Zune Marketplace will be restricted from being "squirted", as Steve "I'm Going To Eat Your Children" Balmer put it, to other Zune players. The Zune is nothing but a DRM machine. Plus the screen is FUBAR'ed because it has a 4:3 pixel aspect ratio, but its stretched out to 16:9 so the video looks distorted and stretched.
The Toshiba Gigabeat S.... it's not selling well either. Not even single digit marketshare. Toshiba has a knack for literally dropping products from their line and support for them. Just go read user experiences with Toshiba notebook PCs. THey've had several lines that were problematic that they simply dropped and refused to honor warranties for.
The iPod is your best bet. It has the lowest failure rate and you've already got an iTunes library setup. Plus, in all honesty, buying anything besides an iPod is a DOWNGRADE from your nano. You don't trade in the Porsche for the Ford Pinto, you know?


Sorry. I can't hear you over the fanboyism.


"Fanboyism"? Making up words now? Fine, if you want to ignore HONEST advice, then you're SOL and you can deal with any POS you end up buying. You can't prove anything I said wrong. You can't prove it to be "fanboyism", because EVERY single thing I said in this thread and your other thread is backed up by hardcore facts that you can find by simply going to the sources I mentioned.
Fanboy? Hardly. I spoke the truth. Before you go making up words, check the facts. But if you want to buy some POS and downgrade, then be my guest. I'll be the first on to post in your thread when you're having problems with whatever non-iPod you buy and laugh at you and say "I told you so".



Yes, fanboyism. Calling everything but an iPod a "POS" would be fanboyism. There are mp3 players that are just as, if not more reliable then some iPods and have more features. Just because iPods sell the best, does not in any way make them the best. Most popular, yes. However, they aren't popular because they are the most reliable, nor to they have the most features. They are popular because they are thin, they look nice, and are user friendly.


There are no MP3 players as reliable as the iPod. Apple released the facts showing they have the lowest failure rate of any MP3 player, and nearly all consumer electronics.
 
More features? Such as what? The wifi sharing in the Zune that will stop you from sharing as much as 60% of your music? Or useless FM radios that make the player incredibly thick and get terrible reception anyway?
 
Anyway, iPods sell the best because they are the best. You don't sell more than 20 million units of something in a 3 month period at $150-$350 a pop if its not the best
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Go for the iPod

Sauron sure does a good job on the backup info, fanboy or not...and I agree with it.

If it were me...I would choose between the iPod and the Sandisk player. I have friends that have disliked the Zen players for their awful transfer performance and some other little things. I do know 2 friends that use Sandisk players and they are great for a cheaper price. It might not be the iPod player, but it gets the job done.

Zune players...eh, I would wait until they come out with something a bit more 'updated'.
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brush fire wrote:


wrote:


Hofman101 wrote:


wrote:


brush fire wrote:
The MicroPhoto is a reliable and inexpensive player for what it costs, but the screen is an OLED screen and can't be seen outside. It's very dim. I don't mind iPods, but I've had bad experiences with them in the sense that they have been unreliable. I've never tried the Gigabeat, so I can't tell you anything about it. If you want a reliable, inexpensive player, go with the MicroPhoto. If you want the 30GB capacity and don't mind taking the risk, go with an iPod. Personally, I LOVE my Creative Zen Vision W, but that isn't on what you're looking at.

Message Edited by brush fire on 01-25-2007 07:01 PM


My iPod mini is almost 2 years old now and the battery life is still just as good as the day I bought it. Infact, if not the natural discoloration of the click wheel caused by two years of heavy use and oils from my fingers building up, you could easily mistake it (appearance and performance) for a brand new iPod mini. Apple released statistics showing that the iPod actually has the lowest failure rate of all major mass produced electronics.
OP: For the Zune, forget it. The sales of the Zune are falling by the day. The DRM is absolutely insane and you can't use the device as an external hard drive unless you hack it. As much as 60% of the music you get from the Zune Marketplace will be restricted from being "squirted", as Steve "I'm Going To Eat Your Children" Balmer put it, to other Zune players. The Zune is nothing but a DRM machine. Plus the screen is FUBAR'ed because it has a 4:3 pixel aspect ratio, but its stretched out to 16:9 so the video looks distorted and stretched.
The Toshiba Gigabeat S.... it's not selling well either. Not even single digit marketshare. Toshiba has a knack for literally dropping products from their line and support for them. Just go read user experiences with Toshiba notebook PCs. THey've had several lines that were problematic that they simply dropped and refused to honor warranties for.
The iPod is your best bet. It has the lowest failure rate and you've already got an iTunes library setup. Plus, in all honesty, buying anything besides an iPod is a DOWNGRADE from your nano. You don't trade in the Porsche for the Ford Pinto, you know?


Sorry. I can't hear you over the fanboyism.


"Fanboyism"? Making up words now? Fine, if you want to ignore HONEST advice, then you're SOL and you can deal with any POS you end up buying. You can't prove anything I said wrong. You can't prove it to be "fanboyism", because EVERY single thing I said in this thread and your other thread is backed up by hardcore facts that you can find by simply going to the sources I mentioned.
Fanboy? Hardly. I spoke the truth. Before you go making up words, check the facts. But if you want to buy some POS and downgrade, then be my guest. I'll be the first on to post in your thread when you're having problems with whatever non-iPod you buy and laugh at you and say "I told you so".



Yes, fanboyism. Calling everything but an iPod a "POS" would be fanboyism. There are mp3 players that are just as, if not more reliable then some iPods and have more features. Just because iPods sell the best, does not in any way make them the best. Most popular, yes. However, they aren't popular because they are the most reliable, nor to they have the most features. They are popular because they are thin, they look nice, and are user friendly.


There are no MP3 players as reliable as the iPod. Apple released the facts showing they have the lowest failure rate of any MP3 player, and nearly all consumer electronics.
 
More features? Such as what? The wifi sharing in the Zune that will stop you from sharing as much as 60% of your music? Or useless FM radios that make the player incredibly thick and get terrible reception anyway?
 
Anyway, iPods sell the best because they are the best. You don't sell more than 20 million units of something in a 3 month period at $150-$350 a pop if its not the best



Just beacuse something sells well doesn't mean its the best. Just stating the obvious...
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brush fire wrote:


wrote:


Hofman101 wrote:


wrote:


brush fire wrote:
The MicroPhoto is a reliable and inexpensive player for what it costs, but the screen is an OLED screen and can't be seen outside. It's very dim. I don't mind iPods, but I've had bad experiences with them in the sense that they have been unreliable. I've never tried the Gigabeat, so I can't tell you anything about it. If you want a reliable, inexpensive player, go with the MicroPhoto. If you want the 30GB capacity and don't mind taking the risk, go with an iPod. Personally, I LOVE my Creative Zen Vision W, but that isn't on what you're looking at.

Message Edited by brush fire on 01-25-2007 07:01 PM


My iPod mini is almost 2 years old now and the battery life is still just as good as the day I bought it. Infact, if not the natural discoloration of the click wheel caused by two years of heavy use and oils from my fingers building up, you could easily mistake it (appearance and performance) for a brand new iPod mini. Apple released statistics showing that the iPod actually has the lowest failure rate of all major mass produced electronics.
OP: For the Zune, forget it. The sales of the Zune are falling by the day. The DRM is absolutely insane and you can't use the device as an external hard drive unless you hack it. As much as 60% of the music you get from the Zune Marketplace will be restricted from being "squirted", as Steve "I'm Going To Eat Your Children" Balmer put it, to other Zune players. The Zune is nothing but a DRM machine. Plus the screen is FUBAR'ed because it has a 4:3 pixel aspect ratio, but its stretched out to 16:9 so the video looks distorted and stretched.
The Toshiba Gigabeat S.... it's not selling well either. Not even single digit marketshare. Toshiba has a knack for literally dropping products from their line and support for them. Just go read user experiences with Toshiba notebook PCs. THey've had several lines that were problematic that they simply dropped and refused to honor warranties for.
The iPod is your best bet. It has the lowest failure rate and you've already got an iTunes library setup. Plus, in all honesty, buying anything besides an iPod is a DOWNGRADE from your nano. You don't trade in the Porsche for the Ford Pinto, you know?


Sorry. I can't hear you over the fanboyism.


"Fanboyism"? Making up words now? Fine, if you want to ignore HONEST advice, then you're SOL and you can deal with any POS you end up buying. You can't prove anything I said wrong. You can't prove it to be "fanboyism", because EVERY single thing I said in this thread and your other thread is backed up by hardcore facts that you can find by simply going to the sources I mentioned.
Fanboy? Hardly. I spoke the truth. Before you go making up words, check the facts. But if you want to buy some POS and downgrade, then be my guest. I'll be the first on to post in your thread when you're having problems with whatever non-iPod you buy and laugh at you and say "I told you so".



Yes, fanboyism. Calling everything but an iPod a "POS" would be fanboyism. There are mp3 players that are just as, if not more reliable then some iPods and have more features. Just because iPods sell the best, does not in any way make them the best. Most popular, yes. However, they aren't popular because they are the most reliable, nor to they have the most features. They are popular because they are thin, they look nice, and are user friendly.


There are no MP3 players as reliable as the iPod. Apple released the facts showing they have the lowest failure rate of any MP3 player, and nearly all consumer electronics.
More features? Such as what? The wifi sharing in the Zune that will stop you from sharing as much as 60% of your music? Or useless FM radios that make the player incredibly thick and get terrible reception anyway?
Anyway, iPods sell the best because they are the best. You don't sell more than 20 million units of something in a 3 month period at $150-$350 a pop if its not the best



I'm going to ignore you for two reasons. One, I don't want this thread locked because of flaming or going off topic. Two, anything I say, you will deny saying iPods are better because of this or that. There is no point to debating this with you because you will not accept that people may like other players better then the iPod nor will you accept that people have had iPods fail on them. Just because you haven't had that happen doesn't mean other people were so lucky. End of discussion.
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