Reply
MVP Support
Registered: 01/09/2010
Online
40037 posts
 

Re: Sony PS4 reveal. My response !

Feb 21, 2013

If you watched the whole two hours you would have seen that guys trophy list contained over 2,000 trophies, so I think it's safe to assume that trophy support will continue, actually for some time now Sony has required all PS3 games have trophy support, there is no reason to uspect that it it will not.

 

Can i change my PSN ID, sorry, boring, not important move on.

 

BRIT-KO.

CMNTY_SIG_MVP_500x100_002B.jpg



Customer Service - 1-800-345-SONY (7669)
Available Mon to Fri From 8am - 8pm PST
Message 10 of 144 (391 Views)
Reply
0 Likes
Treasure Hunter
Registered: 08/23/2010
Offline
4501 posts
 

Re: Sony PS4 reveal. My response !

Feb 21, 2013

 

Trophies shall live on!

 

Screen Shot 2013-02-20 at 3.26.03 PM.png

YB

Message 11 of 144 (384 Views)
Reply
0 Likes
First Son
Registered: 08/31/2009
Offline
4 posts
 

PS4 Setting up to be most colossal fail ever

[ Edited ]
Feb 21, 2013

From what I've been able to gather so far from the really vague information that's been given, I am afraid for the PlayStation's future.  Several reasons for this:

1.  No disc drive?  Download only?  This basically screws everyone that has been a PS fan since the beginning.  First of all, I own lots of PS1 games.  I want to just be able to pop one in and play if I feel like it.  I'd be willing to shell out a few extra bucks for that capability.  Instead, they're going to offer PSN downloads of POPULAR games (have a niche title you love but is not in the download list on PSN?  Sorry for your luck.)  Second and worst of all, if I want to play FFVII or Metal Gear Solid, I have to BUY THE DOWNLOAD even though I already have the game sitting over here on my shelf?  Where is the payback for those of us who have been loyal to Sony since the start?  I bought my first PS back in 96 with my very first income tax return check from my dishwashing job at 17 years old, and have never played anything else but a Sony console since.  I waited in line at 3 in the morning for the PS2, went through the disc read error crap with 2 different consoles, and have never even thought about buying a Nintendo or Microsoft.  Is this how you repay your fans?

 

2.  This thing with the downloadable games brings up another problem, even with a TB hard drive, you could only have a limited amount of content on your console at any one time before you would have to go thru and decide what to delete so you can download something else.  And then what if you want to play what you downloaded before again?  I'm sure it won't be infinitely downloadable as many times as you want.  What's going to happen to used games?  That's obvious.  I'm sorry Sony, but some games are good enough to warrant a buy and play for a few weeks, but not shelling out 60 bucks for.  Only the true classics are worth that, and let's face it, innovation is slowly but surely grounding to a halt.  Skylanders is honestly the most innovative thing that has come out in years.  Everything else is just (Insert franchise name here) 2, 3, 4, (insert gimmicky extra title here, ex. Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, etc.)...fresh ideas are running out.  We need to be able to have other options.  Forcing us to do things your way or the highway is a recipe for failure.

 

3.  What happens when the hard drive inevitably fails?  What about network failures that could possibly corrupt streaming content or online game saves?  What's the backup plan for this?  Hope you guys learned your lesson from the PSN debacle.

 

4.  When one of the "groundbreaking" features is a partnership with Facebook, that's legitimate reason to worry.  Anyone remember MySpace?  Social networking sites come and go, and anybody that uses FB I'm sure can see the similarities in MS starting to pop up:  people whining and crying and moaning too much, WAAAAY too much sharing of photos and music videos and crap like that, FB is ROCKETING downhill...in short, it's not going to be around forever.  (I would be willing to bet a max of 1-2 more years.)

 

5.  Another "groundbreaking" feature is the sharing of gameplay footage?  I could care less about this.  Maybe some people do, but this should be a niche detail feature, not one of the consoles major selling points.  That concerns me.  I just cannot picture many people in todays rushing world sitting down in front of their $500 gaming machine to watch what their friends did earlier in their game.  That's what YouTube is for.

 

6.  Other features are just rehashes of stuff that was released in this gen.  PS4+PSVita basically= WiiU...motion sensors, been there done that, is ok at times WITH friends, but that's about it.  If they're going to go this route, it needs to go a step further and do a Kinect type "your body IS the controller" feature BUILT IN, not an extra you have to pay for.  

 

7.  Believe it or not, there are still plenty of people out there who either live in areas that do not have suitable gaming quality internet (or no internet at all) or can't afford it, and it seems that the move is finally being made to basically disregard the single player experience in favor of online net gaming.  This is going to eliminate a lot of buyers who simply don't have the means to do it, even if they want to.

 

8.  Sony's strategy is seemingly counting on the people that buy this console are absolute gaming freaks who live and breathe games and don't do anything else in their spare time (not to mention spend time with the wife/gf/bf/husband/kids/go out with friends on Friday night, etc.)...also, that everyone has large amounts of friends who are gaming freaks AND have the console as well.  In today's world, the average adult just doesn't have the time to invest this much money in something that seemingly assumes we have a lot more spare time than we do when you throw in full time jobs, college, family time, etc. and those that have the spare time probably don't have the money (kids).

 

9.  I personally DO NOT WANT my PS to download stuff for me it THINKS I will like.  This is kind of like the "buy something, we'll keep sending it to you until you cancel" thing that annoys the heck out of me in the real world.  This "feature" better be able to be turned off.

 

This and other smaller details that I'm sure will come out later (These concerns are just my "off the top of my head" FIRST IMPRESSIONS) have me very nervous about the next gen, this could possibly be the end of the line if it fails, and Sony seems to be willing to make some huge gambles here.  It's been a fun ride so far, but I must say with us already fast approaching the end of February and the console set to debut at the end of this year, Sony seriously needs to go in detail about this thing and set our minds at ease about our concerns.  Let's face it, the economy sucks and most of us just don't have mountains of money to blow on video games anymore.  They're going to have to prove to me it's going to be worth it to basically start all over from scratch like the first 3 Playstations basically never existed and be at the top of their game right out of the gate.  Here's hoping it goes well, but I'm being VERY cautiously optimistic.

Message 12 of 144 (715 Views)
MVP Support
Registered: 12/18/2002
Offline
18927 posts
 

Re: PS4 Setting up to be most colossal fail ever

Feb 21, 2013

E3 is your friend

7FXb|Thunderstorm Summer[Twitter] @SevenFactors Welcoming Committee 2.0 MVP
Message 13 of 144 (590 Views)
Wastelander
Registered: 01/23/2007
Offline
680 posts
 

Re: PS4 Setting up to be most colossal fail ever

Feb 21, 2013
It has a BD drive. Aside from that it sounds like a gaming PC with a PlayStation badge on it. I'm sure it will be successful.
Message 14 of 144 (572 Views)
Reply
0 Likes
Treasure Hunter
Registered: 07/23/2005
Offline
5847 posts
 

Re: Do you have your money saved already for the PS4??

Feb 21, 2013

I won't have a savings for it yet. I normally wait until a majority of the bugs are worked out bedore I consider buying a new console.

 photo godofwarsig34712.png
Message 15 of 144 (389 Views)
Reply
0 Likes
Treasure Hunter
Registered: 08/23/2010
Offline
4501 posts
 

Re: Do you have your money saved already for the PS4??

Feb 21, 2013
Yes - as long if it's under $450.

YB

Message 16 of 144 (387 Views)
Reply
0 Likes
Lombax Warrior
Registered: 03/31/2007
Offline
231 posts
 

Re: PS4 Setting up to be most colossal fail ever

Feb 21, 2013

Horrible ideas. Forcing users to the cloud/streaming.

Leadership is the art of getting someone else to do something you want done because he wants to do it. Dwight -D. Eisenhower
Message 17 of 144 (537 Views)
Reply
0 Likes
Treasure Hunter
Registered: 08/23/2010
Offline
4501 posts
 

Re: PS4 Setting up to be most colossal fail ever

Feb 21, 2013
Social websites do come and go. Mostly due to popularity and UI. MySpace is still there. But a lot of people left it due to all the ads and the horrible UI it got over time. I'm sure Facebook and SCE made some kind of interesting contract though.

But the live game recording and letting others watch you play right from your own console is HUGE. There is no more YouTube involved. No more going to the store and buying a device to capture your gameplay that cost around $200. SCE really hit the right spot for being more social gamers. Just hoping all the pricing stays Free for PSN Smiley Happy

YB

Message 18 of 144 (533 Views)
Reply
0 Likes
Fender Bender
Registered: 04/06/2012
Offline
2633 posts
 

Re: Do you have your money saved already for the PS4??

Feb 21, 2013

Maybe.

yeehaw i'm a cowboy now
Message 19 of 144 (345 Views)
Reply
0 Likes