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Re: Self Defense or Murder? Your Opinion?

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Judging by the interview with the man who was sent to jail for the walmart ordeal, it is neither murder or self defense, since he was not trying to kill the person. He can get off pretty easily with several years in prison for manslughter.

Murder is intentional, and manslaughter is the opposite of murder in terms of intent.


 

actually.. they did not arrest him at all.. he's still living his life normally..

 

they are handing the case over to the DA.. but with the security videos.. the guy walked away from a verbal confrontation.. and got jumped and dragged across the floor..

 

i don't think he will have any problem..

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it takes alot of power to kill somebody with your fist.. and he was in a wal mart somebody could of broken it up the guy could of sued this guy but what he do is take out his gun and shoot him now who is going to jail... 

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Looked like he was grabbed and pushed... hitting his head on the top edge of the 3-4ft concrete wall there.

 

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i think it's self explainatory

 

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So the guy uses a gun in walmart and calls it self defense. What the heck are people doing with guns in Walmart? I mean sure they would of have been in a fist fight or something but doesn't mean you need to pull out a gun to say it is self defense.

 

One of the reasons I don't have cable is the news is all the same everyday. Why do we need this in the forums? Dulun18 you need something better to do with your time than posting stuff like this. I can't believe have many threads are in your name posting articles and things of this nature. People become paranoid and I think it's affecting your mind abit!

 

 

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this is interesting.. i'll bookmark this thread and will post updated information for this later

 

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/arizona.pdf

 

according the Arizona laws. you can carry your guns in most places  (OPEN or CONCEALED with NO PERMIT/LICENSE required)  .. even BANKS.. so wal-mart is nothing to be surprised about.... EXCEPT for places like federal buidings or businesses that has NO GUN ALLOWED signs, etc.... then you have to obey the law..

 

i don't understand what is wrong with people these days.. from road rage on the streets.. to verbal arguements turned into a physical fight ....

 

if it's paranoid.. i think people these days are short fuse and so eager to pick a fight..

 

walk away from a fight.. avoid confrontation .. it's better to back off than jumped someone and then got shot..

 

 

treat everyone like they are armed.. keep the "I want NO Trouble and walk away" attitude .. always worked for me..

 

 

quick to throw a punch was always an idiot's reaction in my opinion.. verbal insults do not harm anyone physically.... but you are moving from insults to physical attacks..

 

it's a different can of worms..

 

 

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http---makeagif.com--media-3-02-2014-9Rwd5C.gifThat is self defense.  



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well i can see in other states how this may pass as legal but try getting away with that here in california you would prob be shot by the cops if they know u have a gun on u 

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Why can't it be both?

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well wait a minute. Exactly who got killed, was it the guy that started the fight or was it the guy that was attacked first?

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I almost thought this was a Loss Prevention stop gone bad.  

 

Killer was definitely looking for revenge.   You can even tell by his by approach.  

 

Not hard to figure out...video doesn't lie. 

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