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I remember that story in elementary school.  Our teacher had us making those paper cranes.  I couldn't even finish one lol.

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i am good at making those we also had to make a poster and everyone asked if i can make a crane for them

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Japan got what was coming to them.  How do you expect the U.S. to not retaliate?  (Hopefully North Korea gets a present too someday.) *Wishful thinking*


Well we can't  A bomb anymore cites do to the internatonal law. 

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Japan got what was coming to them.  How do you expect the U.S. to not retaliate?  (Hopefully North Korea gets a present too someday.) *Wishful thinking*


lol ok

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Oh I can't post this, because it's is to graphic.... ._. 

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Japanese Minister of Defense Fumio Kyuma is one of those people one finds in political parties in every country: he's a specialist in putting his foot in his mouth. Weeks ago, he did it when he suggested that Bush was mistaken when he invaded Iraq, which, coming from the Defense portfolio of one the most solid allies of the United States, represented a serious embarrassment for his government. And last Saturday in the middle of a university lecture, he declared that the atomic bombs that the U.S. dropped over Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August of 1945 were "an inevitable way" of ending the war, and that he didn't bear any grudges against those who dropped them because the bombs averted the planned invasion of Japan by the Soviet Union. The subsequent scandal - the many associations of victims and children of victims which protested - had its effect - with the result that today, Fumio Kyuma is no longer Japan's Minister of Defense. But what’s important here is that once again, the subject of the atomic bomb and the complicated feelings we have about it are on the table. This is no surprise. Sixty two years after the two bombs fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki killing over 200, 000 civilians in one single military blow, it seems clear that this is one of the great questions of contemporary history: Were they necessary or not? The official North American version circulated in books (sadly) celebrates, “the decision to use the atomic bomb.” The thesis is quite simple. The atomic bombs were necessary because only could force the unconditional surrender of Emperor Hirohito. The atomic bombs were necessary because the only other military option was to invade Japan, a maneuver that would have taken nearly a year and would have cost close to a million lives in the North American army. But then again none of this is certain. In time, certain documents were declassified thanks to pressure by the various investigators interested in knowing the truth. And all the findings have weakened these popular truths. Where the bombs necessary to force the surrender of Hirohito? It isn’t clear. We now know that a year after the war ended, the United States government ordered a study called "The Strategic Bombing Survey." The report is less than clear: the Japanese were ready to surrender as of June 26, 1945; all they asked was that the life and institution of Emperor Hirohito be respected. The Secretary of War at the time, Robert Patterson, thought that this revelation put in doubt the need to use the Bomb; so he recommended that this phrase be eliminated before the report was published. His recommendation was obeyed. Were the bombs necessary to avoid a year-long invasion that would cost millions of lives? This too is uncertain. The same report demonstrates that there were other options for ending the war: The terms of negotiation could have been modifies, or the U.S. could have waited for the Red Army to enter the war, which would have taken place in the middle of August and would have forced Japan's surrender. And other studies have demonstrated that in the summer of 1945, conservative estimates of potential North American losses during an invasion of Japan were not the million so oft spoken of: it was closer to 45,000. As a nation, Japan has dedicated all of its efforts to peace: the Japanese Constitution is the only one in the world that specifically prohibits the possession of atomic weapons. The situation has changed since North Korea carried out its [nuclear] tests last year, obligating the Japanese Foreign Minister to declare that his country “is capable of producing nuclear weapons,” although he said they had no immediate plans to do so. It is within this atmosphere that former minister Kyuma made his comments, which tells us that the Japanese psyche is far from overcoming the trauma. By the way, neither is the rest of the word.
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I remember that story in elementary school.  Our teacher had us making those paper cranes.  I couldn't even finish one lol.


Same, I couldn't make one either, but I learned. .  There was this one kid though, I swear he was a master with his hands. He would make 3 in 5mins flat lol. 

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But what about Pearl Harbor?


Both countries were in the wrong for bombing each other, there were better ways to resolve conflict without war. 


Japan didnt want to resolve the conflict any other way.

 

the US tried to talk to them, they refused.

we warned of the first bombing, they ignored.

we dropped the first bomb then warned them of the second, they ignored.

we dropped the second bomb and finaly they surrendered.

 

the US even air dropped leaflets throughout Japan warning of various cities that could be bombed. we did a lot to try to avoid conflict, but Japan wouldnt listen.


not true% 100.. usa screwed  japan over on the hawaii land and  money  and was invading their property doing dirty deeds. Somehow they  came to an  argeement to split it( the land) or something like that usa didnt do that or pay their share so  japan  said we  will take  hawaii and  those islands and usa never replied  or obeyed to this demand, so japan went  to some rep to meet with usa  at hawaii, they  sent some japanese guys there to  take control of hawaii and  told usa to get off hawaii and  those islands because it belong to japan  now because they havent paid their share or obeyed  a treaty they signed to people of  japan, the  majority of hawaii at the time was japanese.  Some usa men called  washington and said an invasion going on by japan.A usa ship  shot down  some japanese planes one site and thats when japan started bombing pearl habor and  the  ships ,and boats and islands  till it all  was gone. they killed alot of important people ,  alot relative of  congress men and etc.

 

It was not a sneak attack like the press make it  sound  like usa  started the fight. Thats why usa and japan went to  war.  When It was over, japan  had already stop fighting and was done with the war  and siad it will not  abide by the rules of usa told  Usa to leave them alone. Usa bombed them 2twice for barking back at them wit definace and killing these congress men and important people that was on peral habor. There was  no warning of any the nc bombing. the japanese ask them just leave them alone and they will not give them hawaii and these other islands. after the bombing they gave them land  because usa threaten to bomb all japan with  nc bombs, thats was why they surrendered.

 

It was uncalled for because the war was over. Usa is  a very opressive country , Sometimes im sad to be a an american because of that fact

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