MAG - Discussion

[crushemnow]

That's true as well, I forgot about that.

Another reason to not crouch I guess.

[Blaine]

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crushemnow wrote:

How do you even "aim" for a headknife anyway? Does anyone actually do that, because all of my headknife kills are just luck, and it's always when I turn a corner and there's a dude right there so I hit R3.

I've always wanted headknifes to be removed.

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Do we even know that there's a bonus for headknife kills though?

The evidence would point toward yes, but maybe it's like the shotgun @ >10m--registers a headshot, but doesn't give damage multiplier.

Like I said, the evidence would say there is a bonus, but we don't know for sure.

[Blaine]

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crushemnow wrote:

That's true as well, I forgot about that.

Another reason to not crouch I guess.

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lol, I see a few people crouching during firefights and I laugh at them--easy kills. Maybe they're fresh from MGO and are trying to tighten their spread? If you know what you're doing, prone could be a good position, but your best bet is usually just standing and strafing. I see no benefit to being crouched (unless you're sniping from >50m!).

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

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crushemnow wrote:

How do you even "aim" for a headknife anyway? Does anyone actually do that, because all of my headknife kills are just luck, and it's always when I turn a corner and there's a dude right there so I hit R3.

I've always wanted headknifes to be removed.

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I actually "aim" for the head.....well I look up when I swing it is all I do really but I notice that sometimes doing so nets me a headshot knife.

[Twohothardware]

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Blaine wrote:

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crushemnow wrote:

How do you even "aim" for a headknife anyway? Does anyone actually do that, because all of my headknife kills are just luck, and it's always when I turn a corner and there's a dude right there so I hit R3.

I've always wanted headknifes to be removed.

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Do we even know that there's a bonus for headknife kills though?

The evidence would point toward yes, but maybe it's like the shotgun @ >10m--registers a headshot, but doesn't give damage multiplier.

Like I said, the evidence would say there is a bonus, but we don't know for sure.

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Headshot knifes are always OHK even if you don't have the knife damage upgrades and if your getting knifes at greater than 10m away there are bigger issues at hand.

[semper_fi_1999]

People headknife me while they are laying prone and they swing at my ankles.

[Blaine]

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Twohothardware wrote:

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Blaine wrote:

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crushemnow wrote:

How do you even "aim" for a headknife anyway? Does anyone actually do that, because all of my headknife kills are just luck, and it's always when I turn a corner and there's a dude right there so I hit R3.

I've always wanted headknifes to be removed.

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Do we even know that there's a bonus for headknife kills though?

The evidence would point toward yes, but maybe it's like the shotgun @ >10m--registers a headshot, but doesn't give damage multiplier.

Like I said, the evidence would say there is a bonus, but we don't know for sure.

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Headshot knifes are always OHK even if you don't have the knife damage upgrades and if your getting knifes at greater than 10m away there are bigger issues at hand.

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 I said Shotgun @ >10m. Obviously not the knife!

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semper_fi_1999 wrote:
People headknife me while they are laying prone and they swing at my ankles.

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 lol

[Buzzwords]

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semper_fi_1999 wrote:

Good post. Although still got to laugh at all the people who dont believe what you posted or refuse to acknowledge the fact that all guns basically do the exact same dmg. 1 point up for the gun going from Raven<Valor<Sver for gun dmg. And dmg is not the end all as we know ROF and everything else comes into play. Personally I would be willing to trade Sver weapons for Raven any day.

Although I still have to laugh most of the complaints and disagreements in this thread come from certain members of TDF.

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it is a valid argument though that the 1-2 points of dmg, sometimes save you an entire bullet depending on armor tier. if you can kill 1 bullet sooner that more than makes up for the RoF differences. course if you're shooting at an armor tier where you DON'T save a bullet, then the raven gun is best.

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

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Buzzwords wrote:

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semper_fi_1999 wrote:

Good post. Although still got to laugh at all the people who dont believe what you posted or refuse to acknowledge the fact that all guns basically do the exact same dmg. 1 point up for the gun going from Raven<Valor<Sver for gun dmg. And dmg is not the end all as we know ROF and everything else comes into play. Personally I would be willing to trade Sver weapons for Raven any day.

Although I still have to laugh most of the complaints and disagreements in this thread come from certain members of TDF.

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it is a valid argument though that the 1-2 points of dmg, sometimes save you an entire bullet depending on armor tier. if you can kill 1 bullet sooner that more than makes up for the RoF differences. course if you're shooting at an armor tier where you DON'T save a bullet, then the raven gun is best.

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I'll accept what you said but that wouldn't make the higher damage gun better, it would make them equal .

It takes 1 less bullet to kill but in the time it takes to shoot the number of bullets required to kill the faster ROF gun has gotten of at least that one extra bullet if not more.

[Imp-C-Bravo]

Great chart. Assuming all is accurate there is only one thing that needs to be added. Ranges. Guns do different damages at different ranges.