Gran Turismo Series General

[OzDaddy62]

aka GT Car Wish List 3.0

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May 20, 2013

The voting process was closed but the thread can still be used to tell the community what cars you would like to see in the game.

October 21, 2012

PLEASE NOTE

This thread and the car list will no longer be maintained or updated by the OP as explained in the VOTE #3 RESULTS.  It has not received sufficient support to justify the time and effort.   The thread remains for those who wish to use it.  Anybody making a request is still urged to make a constructive effort and follow the nomination format as much as possible.  Good luck.

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Please post the cars that you wish to see added to GT5 or included in future versions.

Each poster is requested to limit their selections to the ones that would be top of their own list, no more than around ten cars every three months or so.  This will help manage the list and bring the most desirable cars to the forefront.

Cars that were included in the previous wish list are eligible for future voting but they need to be re-nominated in this thread. So if you had any special favorites on that list please nominate them here.

Cars that have already been nominated are shown in the Parking Lot at the end of this post.

Cars should be posted with the following information:

Manufacturer

Model and Year(s)

Race Series or Class if relevant

Country of Origin (some may be considered international)

Include a picture (please not too big)

Cars should be as manufactured or raced.  No personal modifications.

Include a link to more detailed information if relevant.

Write a brief and sensible explanation that would help justify its inclusion.  You should make reference to any of the following that are relevant.

Historical Significance

Heritage

Driving Fun Factor

Does the car fill a gap in the list of cars currently in the game?

Is the car desirable to collectors?

Would the car be at home on the racing track?

Is the car of particular importance to a racing series?

Does your car belong to an identifiable category such as (but not limited to) Vintage, Classic, Art, Concept, or Truck?

This information must be included in order for your nomination to be considered for the voting process.

A Sample Nomination is shown in the following post.

The information you provide is, in part, intended to promote healthy discussion on the merits of your selections.  “Your car sucks” criticisms are discouraged.

Nominated cars will be added to a list we will call the Parking Lot.  From time to time a Steering Committee (of course) will select cars from Parking Lot, especially those that are popular nominations, place them on the Starting Grid and through a voting or polling process have forum members determine which ones make it to the Winners Circle.   Further information regarding this selection process and the Steering Committee will be added as this project takes shape.  The intent is to keep the Winners Circle List to a manageable number.  It is hoped that this effort will bring focus to a more select group of cars desired by the community.

Winning cars from VOTE#1 and VOTE#2 are now included in the Winners Circle (see the end of this thread).

Please post your candidates for the Parking Lot using the guidelines above.

Graphics are courtesy of M1SS-D3V1OUS.

Why this is being done.

This thread post is the result of a discussion with MasterGT which led to the idea of revitalizing the GT5 Car Wish List.   The previous Wish List can be found here.

Some useful input from Dan_Zitions has also helped get this idea started.  

We are looking to give the wish list a boost by reorganizing it in a different format.  The existing list has not been updated for a while and has become too cumbersome.  It is now just an “I like this car” list.  The reality is that if somebody gave you a wish list containing approximately 1,500 items you might ask them to cut it back to a more workable size. 

It is our intent that the list should be worthy of promotion with Polyphony Digital, aiming for it to be a legitimate and useful resource for the GT community.   There will be a push to have the cars added to the game as player nominated cars.

Community support will determine whether this idea gets off the starting line, around the first corner and to the finish.  Constructive feedback on the procedures to be outlined in following posts will be welcome.  Keep in mind that we are trying to meet the needs of a large and diverse community while still keeping the process as easily maintained as possible.

Nominations are shown in alphabetical order by manufacturer.

List updated October 2, 2012

Car   (with link to thread post)	Manufacturer	Year(s)	Country	Quote-UnQuote
Javelin   SST 390 "Go-Package"	AMC	1969	USA	Trans-am battle
R15   plus TDI	Audi	2010	Germany	2010 Le Mans winner
E30   M3	BMW	1986-1992	Germany	Original M3 'nuff   said
M1	BMW	1978	Germany	Mid engine layout
M3   CRT Special	BMW	2012	Germany	Special edition
CTS-V   Coupe	Cadillac	2012	USA	amazing top speed
Impala   SS 409	Chevrolet	1963	USA	Iconic muscle car
Monte   Carlo	Chevrolet	1970-1988, 1995-2007	USA	NASCAR breeding stock
Camaro   ZL-1, Bob Jane #7	Chevrolet	1969	USA	Rare and desirable
Nova   SS	Chevrolet	1971	USA	No racing game has it
Corvette  Grand Sport	Chevrolet	1963	USA	Racing grandaddy
Chevelle   SS	Chevrolet	1971	USA	"bleeping"   fast apparently
Camaro   Z28, Chaparral #1	Chevrolet	1970	USA	love-it-or-hate-it styling
202   GT, plus variations	Cisitalia	1946-1952	Italy	First modern sports car
SP1,   Doran Racing Dallara-Judd '02	Dallara	2002	Italy	Le Mans prototype
962   Le Mans	Dauer Racing	1993-94	Germany	Winner 1994 Le Mans   24 hr
Pantera   Group 4	DeTomaso	1972	Italy	definite head-turners
Testarossa	Ferrari	1980's	Italy	Iconic Ferrari
250GT	Ferrari	1962-1963	Italy	Racing legend
288   GTO	Ferrari	1984	Italy	greatest of era
F12   Berlinetta	Ferrari	2013	Italy	Front engine, rear   drive
125S	Ferrari	1947	Italy	first ever Ferrari
Ferrari   158	Ferrari	1964	Italy	World Championship
XB   GT Falcon Coupe, #25	Ford	1976	Australia	Aussie V8 history
Mustang,   Boss T/A	Ford	1969	USA/Australia	Golden ERA Trans Am
SVT   Raptor	Ford	2007-present	USA	Lightning partner
Monster   Energy Mustang GT, Vaughn Gittin Jr.	Ford	2008-present	USA	Drifting and racing
Mustang	Ford	1965	USA	First pony cars
Matech-Ford   GT3	Ford	2008	USA/Switzerland	Championship winner
GT   Falcon, Main Force Patrol - Pursuit Special	Ford	1973	Australia	Influential film car
XA   GTHO Falcon Phase IV	Ford	1972	Australia	Original performance   sedan
Torino   King Cobra / Super Cyclone Spoiler II	Ford	1970	USA	Some lucky guy…
Mustang   Boss 302R/302S	Ford	2012	Canada	factory built racecar
Shelby   GT500	Ford SVT	2013	USA	cheapest to break   200mph
GT   RSPEC - Pursuit Ute	FPV	2012	Australia	Down Under Boss
Zytek   Z11SN Nissan LMP2	Greaves Motorsport	2011-12	UK	GT Academy winner   drivers
Eagle   i-Thrust	Hammerhead	2009	England	Innovative and   ingenious
LX   Torana SS A9X Hatchback , Holden Dealer Team #05	Holden	1979	Australia	Aussie V8 history
RA273	Honda R&D	1967	Japan	V12 at Monaco!
Genesis   Coupe 3.8 Track Edition	Hyundai	2012	South Korea	Seen in action
Sesto   Elemente	Lamborghini	2010	Italy	no comment
T70   MkIIIB	Lola Cars	1969-1970	UK	gentleman racers
Toyota   Lola B12/60	Lotus-Rebellion   Racing	2012	UK	LMP car needed
CX-75	Jaguar	2014	UK	Super-hybrid pioneer
XJR	Jaguar	2004	UK	Fast sleeper
XKR-S	Jaguar	2012	UK	Sports luxury
XKSS	Jaguar	1957	UK	Green Rat
Agera   R	Koenigsegg	2011-present	Sweden	Hyper car
Mazda   3 MPS	Mazda	2012	Japan	Responsive   sub-compact
MX5   GT Concept	Mazda	2013	Japan	Rival GT86 and BRZ
MP4-12C   Can Am Edition	McLaren	2012	UK	Wicked, Super Sick
X-1	McLaren	2012	UK	one-off for special   client
CLS63   AMG(W218)	Mercedes Benz AMG	2011	Germany	Bohemian
SLS   AMG GT3	Mercedes Benz AMG	2011-present	Germany	1-2-3 at 24 hours of   Dubai
Cougar   Eliminator	Mercury	1970	USA	Voted best looking
Nissan   Skyline RS Super Silhouette Formula - [Skyline 2000RS (R30)]	Nissan	1980's	Japan	Iconic Nissan
M600	Noble	2010	UK	looks badass
Road   Runner	Plymouth (Chrysler   Corp)	1970	USA	Muscle car breeding   stock
Firebird   Trans Am GTA	Pontiac	1987-1992	USA	Forgotten generation
944   Turbo	Porsche	1982-1991	Germany	Worth noting
918   Spyder	Porsche	2013	Germany	hybrid so it is   different
Alpine   A110-50	Renault	2012	France	Conceptual rebirth
Megane   265 Trophy	Renault	2011	France	Nurburgring record   holder
Renault   5 GT Turbo	Renault	1988-1991	France	Pocket rocket
Octavia   RS	Skoda	2002-present	Czech Republic	World Rally   competitor
GTS-R	SRT	2013	USA	Gorgeous exhaust   note!
Ultimate   Aero TT	SSC North America	2009	USA	Race car for the road
Formula   Mazda Pro	Star Race Cars	2009-2012	USA	Indy car feeder
V12   Supra	Top Secret	2008	Japan	Smoky
TS030   Hybrid	Toyota	2012	Japan	Le Mans prototype
Tyrrell   P34	Tyrrell	1976	UK	70's icon

 

Winners fromVOTE # 3,  VOTE # 2 and VOTE#1 now included:

1	M1	BMW	1978	Germany
2	Pantera Group 4	DeTomaso	1972	Italy
2	MP4-12C Can Am Edition	McLaren	2012	UK
3	Javelin SST 390 "Go-Package"	AMC	1969	USA
3	250GT	Ferrari	1962-1963	Italy
3	T70 MkIIIB	Lola Cars	1969-1970	UK
3	Formula Mazda Pro	Star Race Cars	2009-2012	USA

Shelby   Daytona Coupe	Shelby American	1964-65	USA	All time   classic
M3   DTM	BMW	2012	Germany	represent the DTM
DBR9   #58	Aston Martin Racing	2005	UK	To beat Stig's time
Cheetah	Bill Thomas/Chevrolet	1963-65	USA	extreme racecar   engineering
HSV-010   GT	Honda	2010	Japan	NSX Successor
R18   TDI	Audi	2011	Germany	2011 Le Mans winner
Charger   SRT8	Dodge	2008-present	USA	Charger vs.   Challenger
Venom   GT	Hennessey Motorsports	2012-2013	USA	Extreme street legal
CTR   3 Clubsport	RUF	2007	Germany	Pure driving
CTS-V   Sedan	Cadillac	2004-present	USA	High performance   sedan

2009-2010 Jaguar XF   Touring Car Racer

1968-1973 Opel GT (the infamous   "mini vette")

1970-77 Mercury Capri 2.8l V6 (Imported   from Germany, also known as the Ford Capri/Cortina in Europe)

1955-57 Chevrolet Impala, Bel Aire,   Biscayne.(incl Stock Car Variant)

2008-09 Radical R8 Racer

2005-12 Gumpert Apollo

2007 RUF CTR 3 (mid engined Super Car)

[OzDaddy62]

Sample Nomination

Manufacturer: Holden

Car: LX Torana SS A9X Hatchback , Holden Dealer Team #05 1979

Country: Australia

Australian racing legend Peter Brock “The King of the Mountain” with co-driver Jim Richards drove this car to victory in the 1979 Hardie-Ferodo 1000, the 20th running of the Bathurst 1000 touring car race, at the Mt Panorama Circuit just outside Bathurst, Australia.  The race was won by a record six laps, starting from pole position, cutting five minutes off the existing race record and setting a new lap record on the last lap.  V8 Toranas occupied the top eight finishing positions.  This car is part of Aussie V8 racing heritage.

[OzDaddy62]

The first community vote is proposed for September 2012.

More Steering Committee and Voting Process information to be added at a later date.

[OzDaddy62]

Thanks for the nomination and helping to get this little project started.

[BlackhawkBlues]

Manufacturer: Ferrari

Model: Testarossa

Year: 1980's

I think this is one of the many iconic Ferrari's left out of the game. Besides being a Mazda fanatic, on the exotics I love Ferrari. It's as simple as watching "Miami Vice" as a child and seeing that white Testarossa, and I was a instant Ferrari fan. I wanted that car, right then. My mom even went out the next day and got me a diecast Testarossa car so I could "drive it" around on the floor as a child. I know the case can be made for just about every Ferrari, but I just don't know how they missed on this car.

[MastrGT]

When it comes time for voting, having pictures that show off the beauty of the cars in the listings should pay off with more votes.

[Dan_Zitions]

Please for acceptance as Nominee...

Manufacturer: Plymouth (Chrysler Corp)

Model: Road Runner

Year: 1970

-Historical Significance- This was the 68/69/70 Dodge and Plymouth Muscle Car defining body style. This platform was used for everything from low level Grocery Getters, Station Wagons and Family Sedans as Belvederes and Satellites to being the base for the infamous Super Bird. They were also put to very good use in Police Packages, NASCAR and Drag Racing. From this single platform, PD could model many different cars just as viable as any in the game.

-Heritage- Starting in the early 60's Chrysler waged war on the Circle Tracks and Drag Strips across the country. These were more than just a continuation of those efforts. They became synonymous with the Muscle Car Era enjoying much success in both professional and street sleeper racing along the way.

-Driving Fun Factor- If PD were to make this a Premium Model, it would be a perfect candidate to include "Trim Packages" in the Aero section, as well as an RM NASCAR type variant. Hot place yeah it'd be fun.

-Collectability- There are so many ways to build this car, even without having the colors to collect as well. If given even the most basic numbers/letters, racing variants would abound. There are also multiple Engine and Wheel/Tire options.

-Key Fill for a Particular Racing Series- Many. From Dirt Track Saturday Night to the local drag strip to NASCAR to just a simple cruise in or car show. USAC, ARCA, Trans AM and others also used various versions of these Dodges and Plymouths.

-Variants- Beyond what's mentioned... Would love to see dog dish and steel wheels and true 60's style NASCAR steel wheels. However, the picture used is on purpose... The Magnum 500's it wears are already in the game on the 71 Mustang. Those wheels were OEM options for all three American Auto makers for various cars during this time period. They should be included in the custom wheel section. Engines ranged from the lowly slant 6 to the basic 383 BB to the 440 Six Pak to the HEMI.

-Track Presence- Um... Yes. Yes indeed.

-Modification Possibilities- Wheels, wings, RM... Anything is possible here.

-Fit with Existing Cars- While some Mopars are present in the game, the ones chosen are the basic standouts. The fact they did a Challenger as a Premium car, along with the 71 Mustang instead of the more versatile 70 was in my mind the wrong way to go. PD did pretty well by the GM camp, but Dodge, Plymouth, Ford and Mercury as well as the totally absent AMC's of the era leave a gaping hole in what could be some outstanding old school racing. Being able to recreate some of the historic racing series of the late 60's and early 70's would be a VERY welcome addition to the game. (edit: Pontiac was left out in the cold as well. It was instrumental just as these cars were on the strip and in Trans Am for example.)

With so many possibilities open and available on this platform, PD would do themselves a huge favor by making this car as a Premium entry. 2 lines of Dodge and three lines of Plymouth, as well as a number of specialty cars and variants could all be 1/2 done off the rip once completed. When also presented with the combinations of trim and wheels and engines within those groups, there are literally 100 cars that could come out of this model, all of them different... And not just another RX7 or Miata different either.

[exXboxFan]

this is awesome.  I'm glad MasterGT found the right guy to pull it together.

my only suggestion so far would be to have the write-up you did in the "introducing" thread abbreviated in the OP of this thread so that people really understand why you're doing things the way you are.  T hat thread will drop off soon and this one will be at the top and we'll want people to have the right perspective before posting here.

great start!

[MastrGT]

Yes, there was a little bit of confusion in how to get this started, but that's what happens when doing something new or different.

[OzDaddy62]

Already done.  See "Why this is being done" section in OP.

Now where is your nomination?    No hurry but.